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Re: OT: Editorial

  • Subject: Re: [iris-talk] OT: Editorial
  • From: Paul Tyerman <ptyerman@ozemail.com.au>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:05:21 +1000


I have tried to work out whether to send this privately or not as I am not
sure it is really for the list, but I am so irritated by this posting that
I will bear the flaming I may get from others for this response.

May I enquire WHY you chose this time to send this editorial.  Seems to me
that you wanted to alienate everyone who is NOT an American..... surely not
the thing to do at this time.

At a time when there is an outpouring of sympathy and help towards the US
why start complaining that it doesn't happen often enough?  Why remind
people of lasting enmity when they are putting that aside in many cases and
empathising, for perhaps the first time in some cases, with "those damn
Americans".  There was a news item last night about flowers and grief in
RUSSIA!  There was an outpouring of sympathy on the streets of what has
traditionally been the Enemy.  I doubt strongly that they can help but the
PEOPLE care.

I also noticed in one item that there are teams coming from war-torn or
earthquake-torn countries to the US who are experts in searching rubble for
survivors as the US does not have expertise in that area.  Specialised
firefighters are currently en-ruite from Australia to help.

I can understand the editorial.  Bringing it up now when the world is
rallying behind the US in a time of grief can only be seen as complaining
that no-one ever bothers to help.  WHAT THE HELL IS EVERYONE CURRENTLY
DOING THEN?  You seem to dismiss what the world is doing for you now!  Why?

One of the big reasons I think that people rarely help the US is BECAUSE
they always help everyone else (some also call this meddling
unfortunately).  They are seen not to need the help of anyone else.
Unfortunately many US tourists also tend to feel they are better than
everyone else BECAUSE they help everyone else.  They tend to loudly blow
their own trumpet and tell everyone how much better their country is than
wherever they are (I have heard this personally a number of times).  These
are tourists and I do not judge a country by that, but many people only
have this contact to go by and that is why Americans are often seen as they

Posting this article as you have is a slap in the face to all these people
who are currently rushing to the Aid of the US and all those people who are
expressing their concerns on this and every other list I am a member of
(and there are a number of them).

In NO WAY do I intend any of this as a slight against Americans.  I would
hardly be offended by this email if I felt that way.  However, bitching and
complaining about no-one helping you when the world is mourning for your
losses strikes me as doing exactly what the editorial is trying to combat.

It is also worth noting that under the ANZUS (sp?) treaty between
Australia, US and New Zealand we here in Australia are technically at war
with whoever the US is at war with, so whoever did this is at war with us
as well.  How much more are we supposed to support you?

As you can all see I am just a tad pissed off about the whole thing.  I was
worried and concerned for those on the list and have been moved by the
constant TV coverage we've had here, plus emails from those affected.

As I have said in prior email... the world is watching and worrying for you
all.  Hopefully none of you were directly affecting by losing loved ones,
but I realise that we are ALL affected by it happening.  We hope and pray
it doesn't happen again or to anyone else.


Paul Tyerman
Canberra, Australia.  USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9

Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Crocus, Cyrtanthus,
Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that
doesn't move!!!!!

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