Re: SHOW: Opinions needed for informal poll
From: Glenn Simmons <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Glenn Simmons wrote:
> From: Glenn Simmons <email@example.com>
> Walter A. Moores wrote:
> > From: "Walter A. Moores" <wam2@Ra.MsState.Edu>
> > Glenn, there are two kinds of judging - exhibition and garden,
> > which was more clearly defined in the former edition of the Judges'
> > Training book, edited by Phil Williams, now president of the TBIS. Now
> > these two types of judging are intermingled.
> > I think you are applying garden rules or judging to those irises
> > on the show tables. Irises on display in a show are to be groomed and,
> > actually, the flower is not being judged in the show; it is the exhibitor.
> > So, spent blooms, dust, aphids, cutworms, etc. must be removed. The iris
> > must be at its "Sunday best" in order to win a ribbon. The individual is
> > judged on how well the iris is cleaned up and displayed. This is an
> > individual stalk being judged, and in the garden the entire clump is
> > judged for garden effect.
> > If you do not own the latest issue of the Judges' Training
> > Handbook, I would recommend your getting or borrowing a copy so you can
> > read more about the differences in exhibition and garden judging.
> > Walter Moores
> > Enid Lake, MS 7/8
> Thanks for the prompt response Walter. You are the second person in about the same
> number of days to tell me I need a judges handbook! :)
> My wife and I used to show dogs and at one time someone down the line in history
> decided I should cut all the whiskers off my dog otherwise it wasn't well groomed! How
> ridiculous, the dog wasn't born without whiskers. Try to find out where this rule came
> from! No one knows!
> I don't have the two types of judging confused Walter. I will admit to "cleaning up a
> stalk." I agree to removing spent blooms, dust, aphids, worms, etc. but not to using
> scissors to trim leaves so they have a more perfect shape or to remove a spot or so.
> String or glue should not be used to hold a leaf in a certain position. A leaf from
> one plant should not be removed and placed on another. I guess what I am saying is no
> artifical means should be used or allowed by judges (providing they see it) to form a
> more perfect flower. Other than the "cleaning up" previously mentioned the flower
> should be in its natural state.
> Am I wrong in my attitude on this? Or is this the way it is done nationwide?
> Glenn & Linda Simmons
> Springfield, Southwest Missouri, USDA Zone 6
I want to add a P.S. to this post. Last spring was my first bench show and I really
enjoyed it and am looking forward to next year's.
Glenn & Linda Simmons
Springfield, Southwest Missouri, USDA Zone 6
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