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RE: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philo from hawaii

  • Subject: RE: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philo from hawaii
  • From: "Tom Croat" Thomas.Croat@mobot.org
  • Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:48:41 -0500
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  • Thread-topic: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philo from hawaii

Dear Russ: 


            It depends on if you are really talking about elements of Philodendron hederaceum or if you have something else.  P. micans and P. miduhoi are certainly synonyms.  There are vaguely recognizable subspecies which I treated but you would scarcely notice the differences.  Alternatively you must remember that you may be seeing only two or three varients of something that is infinitely variable throughout its range.  Collect a plant from Mexico, Nicaragua, Colombia and Brazil and take them back to Florida and you might be able to distinquish each of them indefinitely but remember that if you collected from all the populations throughout the range of the species you would be hard pressed to find any way place where you could draw the line between one population and the next.  That is the nature of evolution and also the nature of horticultural elements that you are looking at only small bits of a spectrum.  Now, of course it is also possible that you really are dealing with misdetermined plants.




From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com] On Behalf Of Bluesea
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:50 AM
To: Discussion of aroids
Subject: [Aroid-l] Unknown Philo from hawaii


OK Aroidnuts, I'm really confused here.  Philodendron scandens is now P. hederaceum.  But according to Dr Croat (via information from Steve Lucas), the species hederaceum  PLUS v. miduhoi PLUS v. micans are now ALL just called P. hederaceum!  No more variety names to separate and distinguish the two different old varieties from the species?  And there ARE physical differences.


Can anyone here clear this up for me?



central Fla



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