Re: [aroid-l] plant of your dreams?

Hey Brian, sounds like the plant might be Smilax...yikes, a nightmare,
indeed...try to remember to take a photo next time?!  Petra



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Williams" <pugturd@alltel.net>
To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: [aroid-l] Alloschemone


> I have been looking for a particular plant that haunts me to this day.
> Years ago I was in florida visiting collectors with my father. We
> visited a Cycad guy that had a small collection of aroids. My father was
> after some cycads and I talked the guy out of a few cuttings of philos
> he had growing on a tree. He had collected them himself he said, but was
> not sure where they came from. I was very new to aroids at the time so
> was after about anything and was not exactly able to ID much with out
> the help of my books. There he had a huge tree with about 5 species of
> philos and other aroids on it. He told me 10.00 each for nice cuttings.
> I had 40.00 bucks I got a imbe variegata and a few commons. Then lower
> at the base I noticed something very very strange a small veining plant
> with very cut leaves. Looked a lot like Amydrium zippelianum but shorter
> leaves and much thinner segments in the leaves. The vine was so tine it
> was in the cracks of the tree bark. I cannot think of anything to really
> describe how odd and small the stems were. This thing was extremely
> delicate looking. I would have written it off  now as amydrium had I not
> noticed something extremely odd about it. Along the stems were small
> thorns these were fairly far apart about 1 to 3 inches. The plant at
> this point was about 5ft up the tree but growing with a leaf only every
> 1 to 2 ft. So when it was offered I told him I would let it grow out a
> bit and get it next year when I would visit. The next year came around I
> dreamed about the damn plant tried looking for it in every book and
> asked a few experts what they thought it could be. I could not find any
> info some said maybe not a aroid. So the following year I visit. Only to
> get that plant and it had taken a bad winter and died. I questioned the
> guy were it was from, Out of all the questions I think it was south
> american plant. The only thing close to all the research is Alloschemone
> but does anyone know if they have small thorns along the stems? If not
> can anyone figure out what in the world is keeping me from my sleep LOL.
> I talked to the guy and he said he had given a few cuttings to another
> friend though everything seems to lead to a dead end. I don't know if
> it's the plant that I really want so bad or the fact that I cannot get
> it and no one seems to know anything about it. Either way was one of
> those times I regret terrible. I hope to never have it happen again LOL.
> THANKS
>
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