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RE: Tuber vs. Corm


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I thought the most interesting reply on the last go round was from =
Wilbert.  If I remember correctly, he said that in Dutch no distinction =
is made--the same word is used for both structures (is that correct =
Wilbert?).  We are well aware that in taxonomy there are the "lumpers" =
and the "splitters."  Do we have the same among the =
morphologists?--especially the English-speaking morphologists?

Yes, we all want to know what it "really" is.  But I am reminded of =
Alice's discussion with the Gnat
 through the Looking Glass and what Alice Saw There, Lewis Carroll):
                        Regarding insects, Alice says to the Gnat:  "I =
can tell you the names of some of them."  "Of course they answer to =
their names?" the Gnat remarked carelessly.  "I never knew them to do =
it," Alice replies.  "What's the use of their having names," the Gnat =
asked, "if they won't answer to them?"  "No use to them," said Alice; =
"but it's useful to the people that name them, I suppose.  If not, why =
do things have names at all?"  "I can't say," said the Gnat.  "In the =
wood down there, they've got no names--"

On the last round I insisted that they were tubers but now I wonder why. =
 Is it just so we can scoff with an air of superiority at those who use =
the "wrong" name when we all know exactly what is meant anyway?

Corms or tubers?  Interesting.  Any why are the little offsets in =
Amorphophallus bulbifer, muelleri, etc., and Pinellia ternata, etc. =
called bulbils?

Clarence


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From: 	Dewey Fisk[SMTP:plantnut@macconnect.com]
Sent: 	Monday, January 11, 1999 7:57 PM
To: 	cwaldron@frognet.net
Subject: 	Tuber vs. Corm

I was talking with a Ph.D Botanist (name withheld for obvious reasons) =
who
is a recognized authority on different types of bulbs....  He said, when =
I
asked him, that Amorphophallus is a corm and not a tuber or bulb.  I =
think
he said something about the cell structure.....

Do we want to start this discussion again....???

Which is it?
Dewey

Dewey E. Fisk, Plant Nut
THE PHILODENDRON PHREAQUE
Your Source for Tropical Araceae





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