Re: ID Help

I think there are some positives and negatives to using facebook.

On the positive side:

1. there are quite a few people who do use facebook on an almost daily basis.

2. uploading and commenting on images is relatively easy.

3. almost negligible work is needed on aroid people's part in maintaining the images and page. facebook has basically provided the framework for the process.

On the negative side:

1. there are still many people who don't use facebook, or who refuse to use it. I should also note facebook is blocked in certain countries (I believe China for example, though i don't think the IAS has members there).

2. The IAS has no control long term over the page. In other words, facebook could shut down the page for whatever reason they want in future and that's pretty much that. All that work would go down the drain.

3. The facebook page system works well for a small number of images, but for very large databases it becomes unwieldy because of lack of certain capabilities...for example, a search function. It wasn't meant to be a long term database of anything.

Having the aroid ID center as hundreds or even thousands of manually coded HTML pages is pretty hard work, and we should all commend Marek for the work he's done, but a possible long term solution such as a database-driven system HOSTED on an IAS web account is probably better since less work on the part of volunteers is needed. To get people to use that, people should be encouraged to upload their images onto that system and then simply POINT to it on facebook via links or whatever.







On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Albert Huntington <a*@gmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
 I just wanted to note that Marek's ID Center, though promoted by the IAS, has never been an exclusive member benefit.
 There is a forum on aroid.org atÂhttp://www.aroid.org/aroidf/ with a specific section for ID for those who might not want to be on facebook.
 The IAS Facebook group has also become something of a center for plant identification.

 I would note that generally, the place that works best for ID is the place with the most experienced visitors ... something we really have no control over.
All the best,
Albert Huntington
International Aroid Society


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Michael McCaffery <b*@gmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of Facebook either. I find it unfortunate that members of IAS should have to sign up w/ Facebook to receive all of their IAS membership benefits.

Mike


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Sherry Gates <t*@msn.com> wrote:
"I regret your decision very much, ÂI avoid facebook."
I regret the decision to move the ID Center to Facebook, too. ÂI hope abrimaal keeps the original site updated and going.
Best wishes to all, Sherry GatesÂ

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:49:30 +0200
From: s*@t-online.de
To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com

Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] ID Help

Hello Marek,

I regret your decision very much, since I do not like Mr. Zuckerberg's business concept at all and I avoid facebook.

Bye, Bye,
Bernhard.




Am 20.07.2014 14:36, schrieb Marek Argent:
Hello,
Â
I moved the ID Center to Facebook, there are many benefits - instant uploading and publishing, live discussion.
It the pagementioned by A Sunjian, there are specimens submitted before.
Â
Greetings,
Marek Argent
----- Original Message -----
From: a*@gmail.com
To: aroid-l@www.gizmoworks.com
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] ID Help

"ÂCanÂsomeone tell me where I can send photos?"

In the next email to aroid-L that you make, simple attach the image to the email.

I believe abrimaal also maintains a website for ID here:


But the quickest way is to simply email your image.






On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:46 PM, S. Cox <s*@suddenlink.net> wrote:
 Hello All,

One of my Philodendrons bloomed for which I am hoping for an ID. Â ÂCan
someone tell me where I can send photos? ÂI have searched the Aroid
site, but I see nothing that looks like it. Â ÂI would appreciate any
help. ÂI'm pretty excited. ÂThis doesn't happen here.

Thank you,
Sue
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