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Re: Alocasia zebrina reticulata

  • Subject: Re: Alocasia zebrina reticulata
  • From: brian lee <lbmkjm@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:20:13 -0700 (PDT)

Dear Derek,


It is good at times to be both pedantic and didactic...if it is in manageable doses.  I am still low tech and I do not know how to get this machinery to italicize letters or underline in emails...I know I'll learn one day...I am learning new techno skills daily.  Old dogs can learn new tricks.



--- On Sun, 6/22/08, derek burch <dburch23@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: derek burch <dburch23@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata
> To: "'Discussion of aroids'" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 2:21 PM
> Steve,
> I hate to be pedantic (actually, I don't, it is all I
> have left), but if you
> are going to present the name as variety reticulata, that
> word (reticulata)
> should be italicized. It is just as much a 'scientific
> name as is the
> specific epithet or the genus name. So you would write
> Alocasia zebrina var.
> reticulata, but, of course you can only do this if this
> varietal name has
> been validly published. If not, to be strictly correct, you
> would refer to
> this as Alocasia zebrina reticulate form. This is what all
> the catalog
> writers and advertisers should be doing, not grasping for
> pseudoscience.
> I would also say (and thoroughly agree with Alistair Hay on
> this) that it is
> rather loose speaking to refer to this as a sport. If, as
> appears to be the
> case, it is just one of many forms that occur in a variable
> wild population,
> then the appropriate measure would be for someone to select
> a particularly
> striking specimen, verify by vegetative propagation that it
> has a stable
> appearance over several generations and then name it as a
> cultivar -
> registering it if I can ever get the cultivar registration
> program for
> aroids off the ground (mea culpa here for slow resolution
> in setting the
> program on a firm footing). By the way, there is absolutely
> nothing except
> one's own sense of responsibility to stop anyone
> tacking on a cultivar name
> to anything. Sad but true. It won't be a registered
> cultivar name until the
> formalities have been done, and then we would all be able
> to see what this
> cultivar should look like, and to whom the blame for it
> should go.
> I really am trying hard to get the registration program
> going and I have a
> registration form worked out that I would be glad to send
> to anyone willing
> to test and suggest improvements. Then I will eventually
> try to persuade the
> board that we as a society can make this work, and join the
> many other
> groups that do this naming responsibly.
> Derek
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com
> [mailto:aroid-l-bounces@gizmoworks.com]
> On Behalf Of ExoticRainforest
> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:59 PM
> To: Discussion of aroids
> Subject: [Aroid-l] Alocasia zebrina reticulata
> Enid, here is the link to all the info I was able to get
> from Alistair Hay,
> Julius and others.  I hope this helps.
> http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Alocasia%20zebrina%20pc.html
> Steve Lucas
> OK, does anyone out there know where Alocasia zebrina
> reticulata originally
> came from? Is it a proper species or a mutant?
> Enid
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