Re: Synandrospadix breeding

I have gotten a few offsets, but can’t say exactly how many I have at the moment, as they are all planted (but not yet sprouted).  I’d be glad to trade clones if anyone is interested.

Don Martinson

On Jun 2, 2023, at 10:07 PM, Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com> wrote:

That does happen - a friend is looking for a second clone of Strophocactus (Selenicereus) wittii because all the plants in cultivation (at least in the U.S.) seem to be pieces of the same clone, which is not self-fertile. (If anyone knows of one please email me privately!)

But with Synandrospadix ... how many of you have ever had a mature Synandrospadix produce an offset? Does anyone have one that regularly produces offsets?

My plant produced one offset when it was young, but never a 2nd one in the 20-odd years since. When I mentioned this to Wilbert, he told me that was typical - mature plants rarely if ever make offsets.

Steve

On 6/2/2023 7:29 PM, Jason Hernandez wrote:
Then the question becomes how many independent wild-collected origins does the current cultivated population contain? If several collectors' plants all trace back to the same initial wild collection, they may all be the same clone.

Jason Hernandez

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:20:46 -0500
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I no longer have the plant, or I would offer mine up for the experiment.
But I do think that those of you who have this species, should consider
sending each other offsets, so that all can start propagating and sharing
the seeds. The IAS membership used to do this sort of thing all the time
decades ago. It was important to the membership to get these plants out
into the hobby, especially as so many species were disappearing from the
wild. Julius Boos, Steve Lucas, Tom Croat, Dewey Fisk, and so many others
used to share material just to get rare species out into the hobby. This
makes so many hard to find species more generally available, builds
networks of breeders, develops relationships, and conserves the species.

Happy days,
Christopher

On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 11:12, Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com> wrote:

> Christopher,
>
> Love to!
>
> Wilbert told me many years ago that only young Synandrospadix will make
> offsets and, as usual, it seems he's right. I got one offset from my plant
> many years ago (that's the one I tried outdoors), and none since.
>
> But I'd be happy to collect pollen from mine and send it to to others.
>
> Steve
>
> On 6/2/2023 11:03 AM, D. Christopher Rogers wrote:
>
> Anyone want to share clones and try to get some genetic diversity into the
> hobby populations?
>
> Christopher
>
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 at 11:00, Don Martinson <l*@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I?ve tried this as well, Steve.  That?s why I ask.  Thanks.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> > On Jun 2, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Don, for what it's worth I've tried to self my single clone several
>> times and never gotten any seed.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>>
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