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Re: [aroid-l]

  • Subject: Re: [aroid-l]
  • From: pmdes@ionet.co.za
  • Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:29:51 +0200
  • Disposition-notification-to:

Dear Eduardo,
thanks for your email. I will certainly enjoy the trip to your country.
Would it be possible to buy plants and export them with
the nessary permits? I would not like to end up as a biopirate. How much of
a effort would it be to get permits?
I do not intend to spend my holiday running from one damn office to the next
as I speak no Portugese at all.
Best Regards
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eduardo Goncalves" <edggon@hotmail.com>
To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l]

> Dear Peter,
>     I hope you have a great time in Brazil, one of the main aroid
> in the world. We have 30 genera growing here and a few of them are endemic
> such as: Gearum, Zomicarpa, Dracontioides, Asterostigma (as
> and Bognera (as yet). Other genera also occur in other countries but has
> most of the diversity occurring here, as: Taccarum, Alloschemone,
> Philodendron subg. Meconostigma, Anthurium sect. Urospadix, etc.
>     In Manaus, make a stop at INPA. They have small collection of
> interesting aroids around the buildings of the Research Labs. I canīt
> remember any good site in Salvador, but if you are going to Rio, donīt
> Rio de Janeiro Botanical Garden and the Burle-Marx collection, that is not
> so far from there. Burle-Marx collection worths itself the trip. I donīt
> remember nothing special in Sao Paulo, but if you have some time, try to
> visit the Instituto Plantarum, in Nova Odessa (more or less 100km from Sao
> Paulo, near Campinas). It is not opened to the public, but you probably
> book a visit (www.plantarum.com.br). You can also see the plants in the
> field. They are everywhere. If you want a specialized guide, contact Mauro
> Peixoto (http://sites.uol.com.br/mpeixoto/) and he can take you to many
> interesting places.
>      Just an important note. Brazilian brand new laws concerning diversity
> turns any intention of bringing home plants into a potential nightmare. It
> is prohibited to take plants out of the country without appropriate
> authorizations, that can take months or even years to be obtained. Most
> plant dealers are not exactly happy with this law, but "dura lex, sed
> Smuggled plants, if found, can put any foreign person in an embarassing
> trouble, including TV appearance and all that stuff... If you are in
> the probability of having serious problems is even doubled up. I have no
> sympathy for this biodiversity taliban, even because most of our diversity
> is already growing in Europe or USA since the late 1700īs. Anyhow, I can
> only try to use the democracy to fight against its excesses. As an aroid
> man, all I can do is warn people and avoid unespected troubles. I am
> known for throwing sand in other peopleīs camp-fire when the subject is
> visiting Brazil to get plants. However, I would hate if I could plan a
> to get plants in another country, waste a lot of money to travel and
> plants and, after all, to be arrested at the airport, with my picture in
> Newspapers saying "Biopirata!" (Portuguese word for biopirate). It is a
> silly paranoia, but it has spreaded like a disease in whole country. In
> meanwhile, weīre burning everything!!!
>                                   Very best wishes,
>                                               Eduardo.
> >From: <pmdes@ionet.co.za>
> >Reply-To: aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu
> >To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
> >Subject: Re: [aroid-l]
> >Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:37:24 +0200
> >
> >  Hi Everybody,
> >I am going to Brasil for about 2 weeks and make stops in
> >Rio, Manaus, Salvador, Iguassu and Sao Paulo.
> >What are must see Botanical Gardens and nurseries that
> >specialise in Anthuriums,Philodenrons, Palms and maybe other interesting
> >plants in these stop over places.
> >Best Regards
> >Peter
> >
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