Re: [Aroid-l] Re:A. titanum offsets/type of .
From: Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>
Reply-To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
To: Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Re: titanum produces offsets .
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:51:41 -0400

Hi Julius,

Yes, OK, but splitting into multiple smaller tubers is not the same as producing offsets like the tuber in the photo did! That one had clearly produced rhizomatous offsets. You're not saying titanum can be made to do *that*, are you?

-Ken

Julius Boos wrote:


From :     Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>
Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent : Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:52 PM
To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Subject : [Aroid-l] Re: titanum at ebay Germany

Dear Friends,

Contary to common belief and most literature, A. titanum can be made to and does produce offsets.
Craig Allen, who used to be at Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami, and who was one of if not THE best A. titanum grower who I know of, reported the following on his cultivation methods for this species.
The artice appears in an older issue of 'Aroideana'. If you wanted a major increase in tuber size and possible blooming (and who does not dream of that!), you should use an over-sized potting container. By accident, Craig found that if you under-potted a tuber of A. titanum in too small a pot, the tuber would then grow in this constricted space, but oftentimes would split into several/many offsets.

Julius W.P.B.,
FLORIDA

That first ebay plant is not a titanum, for sure. You can clearly see scars from where offsets were removed and titanum doesn't produce offsets. The tuber is so dirty I won't hazard an ID, but a dirty konjac could look like that.
-Ken<<

StroWi@t-online.de wrote:
         Thanks, Ken, Marek and Lord P(lant taxonomist),



         and look what I found now:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7768589111&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


A konjac or something else?

Some  titanum were offered around the time of the bloom of the triple
flower bud titanum in Bonn; some before the bloom in Bonn for 40 to 52
Euro and one after the bloom; that had some effect:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7766324186&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1


Good growing,
Bernhard.



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From : 	Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>



Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Sent : Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:51 PM

To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Re: titanum produces offsets .



Hello Ken,



I was just correcting a common misconception re: A. titanum not producing
offsets. The type or shape of the offsets or divisions it does produce
when underpotted I`m NOT familiar with, unfortunately. I`d have to go look
for, find, and read Craig`s excellent article on his cultivation methods for
this species to see if he mentions this aspect. Sorry!



Julius




Hi Julius,




Yes, OK, but splitting into multiple smaller tubers is not the same as
producing offsets like the tuber in the photo did! That one had clearly
produced rhizomatous offsets. You're not saying titanum can be made to do
*that*, are you?



-Ken<<



Julius Boos wrote:





From : Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>

Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Sent : Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:52 PM

To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>

Subject : [Aroid-l] Re: titanum at ebay Germany



Dear Friends,



Contary to common belief and most literature, A. titanum can be made to and
does produce offsets.

Craig Allen, who used to be at Fairchild Tropical Garden in Miami, and who
was one of if not THE best A. titanum grower who I know of, reported the
following on his cultivation methods for this species.

The artice appears in an older issue of 'Aroideana'. If you wanted a major
increase in tuber size and possible blooming (and who does not dream of
that!), you should use an over-sized potting container. By accident, Craig
found that if you under-potted a tuber of A. titanum in too small a pot, the
tuber would then grow in this constricted space, but oftentimes would split
into several/many offsets.



Julius W.P.B.,

FLORIDA





That first ebay plant is not a titanum, for sure. You can clearly see
scars from where offsets were removed and titanum doesn't produce offsets.
The tuber is so dirty I won't hazard an ID, but a dirty konjac could look
like that.



-Ken<<



StroWi@t-online.de wrote:

Thanks, Ken, Marek and Lord P(lant taxonomist),



and look what I found now:



http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7768589111&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1





A konjac or something else?



Some titanum were offered around the time of the bloom of the triple

flower bud titanum in Bonn; some before the bloom in Bonn for 40 to 52

Euro and one after the bloom; that had some effect:



http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7766324186&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1





Good growing,

Bernhard.

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