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Re: When is a rain forest not a rain forest?

  • Subject: Re: When is a rain forest not a rain forest?
  • From: <ju-bo@msn.com>
  • Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 10:50:48 +0000



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> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:58:50 -0400
> To: aroid-l@gizmoworks.com
> From: soukupvg@email.uc.edu
> Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] When is a rain forest not a rain forest?

Dear Vic,

There is NO argument, that area is a true rain forest, thanks for the reminder.

Julius
 
> Hi,
>          Not to start any arguments, but there is rain forest in North 
> America.  It may not be tropical, but the maritime area of the Pacific 
> Northwest, from Washington thru coastal British Colombia to Alaska is a 
> "rain forest".  I'm sure this note will make us all remember this fact and 
> the need to preserve this forest system which the lumber industry wants to 
> cut down.  There is little of the diversity to be found in tropical rain 
> forests but the trees are indeed magnificent.
> 
> VicAt 11:16 PM 5/1/2008 +0200, you wrote:
> >Seve,
> >
> >You are right, in North America there are no rainforests, only deciduous 
> >subtropical forest, in Panama or Southern Mexico down throught Brazil and 
> >other Southamerican countries you can find evergreen tropical rainforest, 
> >the same in Asia, down to about 20 deg. of N latitude there are deciduous 
> >forests and where the monsoon climate begins there equally start the rain 
> >forest. And of course it also depends from the subclimate, when it's dry 
> >and cold of too hot, the rainforest od not occur at all (like Sahara in 
> >Africa), the rainforest are present only in the narrow area between the 
> >tropics, the equatorial Africa.
> >Every continent except Europe (and Antarctica :) ) has it's own belt of 
> >tropical rainforest. It is always cut by the Ecuator, then there are 
> >deserts, priairies and similar dry bioms, and as we go longer there are 
> >deciudous leaf-bearing (?) forest gradually replaced by the coniferous 
> >evergreens taygah. Also rainforest do do not occur in high mountains even 
> >when the latitude could allow them to grow there.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:Steve@exoticrainforest.com>ExoticRainforest
> >To: <mailto:steve@exoticrainforest.com>Steve Lucas Exotic Rainforest
> >Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:49 AM
> >Subject: [Aroid-l] When is a rain forest not a rain forest?
> >
> >Well, now I'm terribly confused!  A note published on the Aroid l last 
> >night from Leo Martin, director of the Cactus and Succulent Society of 
> >America indicates Epiphyllum species are not rain forest plants.  But they 
> >live in rain forests.  "Steve - They aren't rain forest plants. I've seen 
> >some of them in Mexico.  There are indeed cacti that are rain forest 
> >plants but Epiphyllum in general aren't, with the possible exception of E. 
> >chrysocardium.  They are denizens of tropical deciduous forest. In other 
> >words, 4 months of summer rain, 8 months of no rain (but with normal 
> >nighttime dew.) Most (not all) of Mexico has this climate regime. I 
> >haven't been to Central America but there's plenty of tropical deciduous 
> >forest there too."
> >
> >This dilemma appears to involve the definition of what is and isn't a rain 
> >forest.  I've read many times in Dr. Croat's material these forests are 
> >known to have dry, moist and wet regions and I thought I understood 
> >that.  But now it appears I am left to consider plants that live in the 
> >dry region not to be rain forest plants.  I'm really confused and 
> >obviously have a lot more to learn.  But, I am trying.
> >
> >I spent a good deal of the night working Mr. Martin's note into the page 
> >and am doing my best to not take a position.  I am not an expert and will 
> >not try to defend a position just because I don't understand all the 
> >ramifications.  But this one is rattling my mind!
> >
> ><http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Epiphyllum%20phyllanthus%20subsp.%20phyllanthus%20pc.html>http://www.exoticrainforest.com/Epiphyllum%20phyllanthus%20subsp.%20phyllanthus%20pc.html
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
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