Re: younger aroiders

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Follow-up - Robert kindly sent me an image of what he sees, and things make more sense now.

He is in digest mode, and - sparing you all the technical jargon - the list is currently set not to include anything that isn't text in the body of the digest. Instead, those things are stripped out and replaced by a link, which you can click on to see whatever it was. I've used lists like that and indeed they are a pain! I didn't realize that's how Aroid-L was configured - neither my admin account nor the ordinary one I use as a check are set to digest.

I'm looking into switching the digest into a mode which should allow attachments to come through in the same way they do for non-digest mode. If we can't think of any downsides, we'll give it a try, and see if that makes digest more palatable.

Steve

On 5/8/2023 11:49 AM, Steve Marak wrote:

Interesting, in the sense that that's something I would not have thought of as bothering anyone. It's supposed to be a "feature", and not of Aroid-L per se but email in general - embedded (or "inline") vs attached, to let people choose what is appropriate for their content.

I could send Jason or Robert an email directly with an image in it, and depending on how I included the image, it would show up on their end either inline, as part of the message, or as a separate attachment that they had to manually open. How to do that on the sending end varies, again nothing to do with Aroid-L, but with the mail program you use. In the one I use, if I copy and paste an image into an email, it is embedded at the point in the message where I pasted it, and people receiving that email will see it there without having to do anything special if their mail program supports the RFC (content-disposition header) properly which, since it's over 25 years old, pretty much all of them do now. If instead I attach the image (using the paperclip icon, in the mailer I use), then it would show up on their end as an attachment which would have to be opened manually. Again, nothing to do with Aroid-L, just how I choose to include the image.

Some software, notoriously Apple, tries not to give its users any choice and will try to imbed every image, and if you Google this you'll see that frustrated Apple users have come up with various workarounds, some pretty bizarre, to let them attach files.

What I don't know, and will have to test, is whether the listserve software is altering the content disposition for Aroid-L so that everything comes up attached. But I've checked the available list settings and I don't see anything there, nor in the documentation, that suggests it is.

Regarding the way long threads appear, again there is usually a choice on your end. Most mail programs support both the old, purely chronological view of your inbox, and a "threaded", "conversational", or "grouped" mode in which each thread is broken out and presented separately. I happen to to hate threaded mode myself, but many people really like it.

Steve (List admin)

On 5/8/2023 8:16 AM, Jason Hernandez wrote:

Robert Wainblat wrote: "(it took a bit to figure out

how to even open attached photos, since they don't seem to be automatically

shown in-line as more modern formats would have them do)."

Actually, I'm from Gen X, and even I find this a somewhat annoying extra step, such that I don't always bother if I'm not sure if, for instance, I can help with the ID. 

Also, you can see that instead of sending this as a reply to the existing thread, I have made a new thread. This is because the way the threads come up -- in the old USENET format of the 90s -- can become difficult to follow once they become long. I wonder if there is a more efficient way to manage long threads. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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