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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:38
Subject: [Aroid-l] Anthurium seeds
Steve, Dan, et al,
I've stayed out of the discussions as I get rather heated about eBay
sales occasionally and try to keep a level head on discussing it. But, I would
like to add a few cents here. Since I am a regular eBay seller, there are a
few things I would like to point out.
Let me just first day that I am not advocating stealing photos. Posting
web links to others web sites is always the best way to go and a society or
authority list (like Dr. Croats and others) always adds validity to
references. Taking someone else's photos from the web without permission
should be reason for immediate termination from eBay or other similar auction
There is a ladybotany listing still there for A. superbum seeds:
The seller is listed as being in Ankara. The same location as an
unscrupulous seller earlier this year trying to sell unavailable Clivia seeds.
She/He said that they have 200 Clivia mirabilis seeds for sale. Well, those on
the Clivia list brought it up and well, there really hasn't been that amount
of seeds for sale this year. It is a new species, government regulations,
private farmers had crop failures, etc. Anyway, the auctions were ended but
people who were contacted by the seller say that the seed was re-listed on
eBay as grass seed for $1 each. Hello, who would be so stupid?????
Anyway, I digress. The point to this soliloquy being all the rare seeds
that I and others sell sometimes go to those who really don't know what they
are buying or getting themselves into. Dan and I have emailed about this. I
can't tell you how many dollars have padded my pockets for rare seeds that I
would like to see fall into someone's hands who knows what they are doing.
But, no. They go to Susie in Middle America who has a few dollars to spend and
wants something different than her spider plant. So, off it goes, she gets a
little seedling that grows and grows. All that she has is a name that was sent
with the seed (or plant or seedling). Ignorant of all the worlds around her
and people who grow similar things, she has this plant which after several
years and loving care, is a mature specimen and producing seeds. She doesn't
know that seeds from it aren't the same as what she got but she thought, maybe
someone else out there might want one and she can pass it on for a $1 or two,
get some extra cash for some new pots.
I can't tell you how many rare plants I haev found lurking in the most
unlikely locations for what ever reason they were there. I have a client that
isn't a plant person, she loves flowers though. She has even told me that she
would rather spend $100 on impatiens than $10 on a nice plant. And yet, her
house has more rare plants than many public gardens. Simply because they came
with the house. I've treatened to sue her if she touches any of them and she
just laughs and doesn't ask me to come back for a year or so.
Steve, I am on your side about stolen photos, hands down and ebay should
back you up. But, let's not doubt the ignorance of suppliers until they are
proven wrong. They might just be a little misguided.
in Camarillo, CA, between Santa Barbara and L.A.
North American Clivia Society
www.floralarchitecture.com "Your Clivia
310.709.1613 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly.