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Fw: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)

  • Subject: Fw: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)
  • From: "Julius Boos" ju-bo@msn.com
  • Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 21:51:53 -0400

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Iles <roniles@eircom.net>
To: Julius Boos <ju-bo@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)

Per your request, here it is Ron!
(My comp. was down the last four days, but I`m back!)



Thank you for the consideration the preview of which I hope you will put on
Aroid-L for further discussion & memorable cartoon visions.  It will bring
out orang utans like yourself, elephants & maybe weevils.   I think the
whole lot is funny beginning with the tempting word randy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julius Boos" <ju-bo@msn.com>
To: "Ron Iles" <roniles@eircom.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Iles <roniles@eircom.net>
To: <aroid-l@lists.ncsu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: [aroid-l] Debate about Stink (Re-fumigated)


Just a quick note to keep in contact---

Just a couple of observations on your missive (below) that do not seem

>Stinky Durians are eaten either by unsmelling
animals, or coprophiles or coprophobes that can stand the stink before they
eat the custard within. The purpose of the Durian like all fruit is to
disperse seeds.  One reason for the stink is to repel little coprophobes
that would
burrow into the hard unripe fruit & make it drop prematurely next to the
tree which would not be good for wide dispersal. <<

The green fruit of Durians (like most or all fruit) do not have an odour of
dung like when they are 'green' or developing, so could not repel (or
attract) any insects, coprophiles OR coprophobes, but I`d bet if there are
any seed weevils specific to durians they would do their dirty work no
matter what.

>>Having repelled the little
b***** the soft stinky is then free to ripen, drop, break in half & voila
will come a BIG
hungry lumbering bear (bigger than a Titan Member) or some other animal that
can carry it & knows about the custard & that animal then runs away
manically with
the whole darn lot & scatters seed for miles & miles.   (see the cartoon
which wouldn't go on Aroid-L).  So, you see THAT's why there
are so many stinky Durians everywhere.  So, the stink of the Durian is to
with the story so far?<<

The smell of Durians is to ATTRACT the oranguatns and elephants which
consume the fruit, seeds and all, then later eliminate the seeds with their
dung far away from the parent tree.   The dung acts as fertilizer, giving
the seedlings a good start in life.

>>The stink of A. titanum ATTRACTS little coprophiles to pollinate them.
what creatures disperse the non-smelling useless fruit?  Apparently the now
endangered hornbill which is stink blind anyway?  Maybe
there are other non smelling creatures to take its place when that too is
gone?  I assume titanum fruit are not stinky otherwise it couldn't be
dispersed by high class coprophobes?.   Smellers are surely not going to go
near a fruiting titanum to eat its fruit if stinky flowering plants are all
around,  If
the stinking titanum inflorescences were mixed up with fruited plants the
large coprophobes might not come at all.  Maybe some smelling
animals which know about the glorious custard would rush into the stink grab
the thing & run like hell as far away as possible?    If they are BIG
coprophiles & there were forests of these stinks maybe they'd eat the mighty
inflorescences too.  Then what use would your beast be to posterity if its
member was eaten before it had done its job?  If now that the hornbills have
crocked maybe its a good thing that Amorphos are solitary so they can still
attract the little coprophiles when they're on heat & other big unsmelling
smelly animals who will run away like hell with the fruit after the member
has made little seeds?   Effective pollination for solitaries depends on
their making
enough stink to fumigate a County.  OK so they can do that?  Effective seed
dissemination by decently smelling animals depends on absence of stink?
Titanum stink is needed both to attract to pollinate & to repel coprophiles
which might otherwise eat entire virgin members.   So as those dratted
Titans &
Hornbills get more & more sparse is it now single stink molecule sensitive
coprophiles for conception, & big stupid brave glutton coprophobes for

Like most Aroid fruit, the outer fruit portion of the ripe red fruit of A.
titanum are sweet and pleasant tasting.    The hornbills (and I believe
bulbul birds) swallow the friut whole, quickly digest the outer covering in
their craws, then re-gurgitate (vomit) the unharmed large seeds up and out
away from the parent plant.   Because of the thin 'skins' on Amorphophallus
seeds I do not think they would survive a 'trip' through the entire
alementary canal of a hornbill.

Are you OK still?

>>One A. titanum in any region is enough because the stink is extremely
potent, &
its coprophilic pollinators extremely sensitive to its noxious odour
molecules at astronomice distances.  High density of members & suffocating
stink would drive away or anaesthetise even maybe those pollinator
flies & finally discourage all seed dissemination by "alternative"
coproPHOBES & turn
other forms of life competing for the same habitats into rabid
 Phalloidophobes & little butchers envious of giant symbolic phalli.  This
gestalt explains the low density of the titanums which you said was actually
the case.<<

Funny!   In the case of coprophylic insects the rule seems to be 'the more
the merrier', for them more is better, a larger food source for them and
their larvae.

>>I am a coprophobe & my earliest toilet training was successful.  I
have passed fully through the normal infants pre-occupation with its own
litter about ninety five years ago.So I tolerate
the sight of absurdly & impractically sized members symbols at amused
distances whilst
remaining true to my decently learned coprophobia by wearing healthy
protective nose filters.  So for me one titanum per square kilometre is
enough, too much actually.<<

This is a GOOD thing, Ron.    You will be welcome at any meeting of a group
of people.    Thanks for letting us know!!  :--)>

>>I do not eat my beloved Spathiphyllum.  But DO try them they are toxic.
You might also try the psychological aphrodisiac & creative inspirational
effects of working in an environment where the perfume of these wonders,
like that of a heavenly woman emanates at high concentration.  Dreamy, Man.
Works wonders for your romance life & can gives that special  "lift" to
jaded Members such as maybe yourselves.<<

A new GREEN  pill on the market soon???   'Viagraphyllum', or perhaps
Spathiviag' ???

>>Although it does not have the magical psychological effects of
I eat Durian flesh avidly as available & in the bush that of course assists
in the wider dispersal of the through litter
scatter   RIPE Durian stink may be chemically & functionally
different from that of Titanum certainly not as subtle as that of
Spathifeelia.   Apparently it does not attract flies even when grown as
forests.  In such forests, after a while even coprophobic noses would surely
acclimatised to the stink as their owners indulge
gluttonously in custard feasts.<<

Where did you early toilet training fail you, Ron!?!?!?!   You can actually
stand to EAT durian flesh?????


Have a great day,


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