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RE: RE: a good model

  • Subject: RE: [cg] RE: a good model
  • From: "Pohl-Kosbau, Leslie" <PKLESLIE@ci.portland.or.us>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:10:06 -0700

Hi Rhonda, 
I will be participating on a panel discussion working with grass root groups
at the municipal day training at the ACGA Conference. I've been working as
the one person plus temporary staff at Portland Community Gardens, sponsored
by Portland Parks and Recreation for almost 30 years. Of course, each city's
garden network is different, but we all share some of the same challenges
and accomplishments. Many of us have learned different approaches and
remained flexible over the years. I am happy to share what I have learned,
and continue to experience. 

Leslie Pohl-Kosbau
Portland Community Gardens
Portland, Oregon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhonda [mailto:rhonda@thestop.org]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 10:42 AM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] RE: a good model


Hi Don!

Is it feasible for them to go to this year's ACGA conference in Toronto?
There will be people & displays from gardens all across the country and the
world, for that matter. Also, there is a whole day of workshops & training
specifically aimed at municipal staff.  They could probably cover the costs
as staff training.

Rhonda Teitel-Payne
Urban Agriculture Coordinator
The Stop Community Food Centre
P: 416-652-7867x222
F: 416-652-2294

Check out our website at www.thestop.org

Gardens of Diversity: Growing Across Cultures
American Community Gardening Association conference
in Toronto October 1-3, 2004
For info: www.foodshare.net


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Today's Topics:

  1. A good model? (Don Boekelheide)
  2. Re: A good model? (Jack Hale)
  3. RE: A good model? (Fred Conrad)
  4. Model (Libby J. Goldstein)
  5. RE: A good model? (utahgardens)
  6. Tom's of Maine grant update (thanks to Lenny) (Laura Berman)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Don Boekelheide <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] A good model?

Now, here's a loaded questions for us all:

Charlotte, NC, where I live, is just about to go full
bore into community gardening. Trouble is, nobody
knows a thing about it among the Park and Rec
officials who are charged with setting up and leading
the program. They want to go to Philadelphia on a
'fact-finding mission'.

That's all well and good, Sally McCabe is there, they
have a wonderful history. But it is also the same city
where they are reportedly scaling back community
gardens in favor of little suburban clone 'lawns' on
vacant lots, since they are 'easier to manage
successfully'. They also just issued a report that's
very skeptical of urban agriculture, with guarded
optimism limited to hydroponic agribusinesses, a
vision that puts green (money) well ahead of green
(flowers, herbs and veggies).

I'm not convinced by Philly's research, and I'm
certainly not interested in that approach to community
gardening and greening in Charlotte, where we're just
getting started. I appreciated that Philly has raised
some tough issues for debate - don't get me wrong! But
-

My question is this:

What is the best model community garden and greening
program in the country? Why? What's the best place to
send a bunch of open-minded but skeptical good ol'
gals and guys who want to see an effective program in
action? And what's the best way (if there is one) to
set up a program - lead by a public agency (Coop Ext,
Park and Rec, whatever...), or a coalition with an
'umbrella' non-profit as the guiding force?

That's a bunch of questions. Bottom line - where
should we send 'em? Philly? Or somewhere else? And who
(beyond the ACGA website, which is good and getting
better every day) should they talk to.

Cheers,

Don Boekelheide
Charlote, NC

PS: Yes, we do have some successful local gardens to
see. But they insist on going outside the area as well.


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Message: 2
Cc:
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
From: "Jack Hale" <jackh@knoxparks.org>
Subject: Re: [cg] A good model?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:07:10 -0400 (EDT)

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Seattle and Portland are both high grade programs sponsored by a
municipalit=
y.  The Green Thumb program in New York is also municipal.  =


JH


Jack N. Hale
Executive Director
Knox Parks Foundation
75 Laurel Street
Hartford, CT 06106
860/951-7694 x11
f860/951-7244


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Don Boekelheide <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT)

Now, here's a loaded questions for us all:

Charlotte, NC, where I live, is just about to go full
bore into community gardening. Trouble is, nobody
knows a thing about it among the Park and Rec
officials who are charged with setting up and leading
the program. They want to go to Philadelphia on a
'fact-finding mission'.

That's all well and good, Sally McCabe is there, they
have a wonderful history. But it is also the same city
where they are reportedly scaling back community
gardens in favor of little suburban clone 'lawns' on
vacant lots, since they are 'easier to manage
successfully'. They also just issued a report that's
very skeptical of urban agriculture, with guarded
optimism limited to hydroponic agribusinesses, a
vision that puts green (money) well ahead of green
(flowers, herbs and veggies).

I'm not convinced by Philly's research, and I'm
certainly not interested in that approach to community
gardening and greening in Charlotte, where we're just
getting started. I appreciated that Philly has raised
some tough issues for debate - don't get me wrong! But
-

My question is this:

What is the best model community garden and greening
program in the country? Why? What's the best place to
send a bunch of open-minded but skeptical good ol'
gals and guys who want to see an effective program in
action? And what's the best way (if there is one) to
set up a program - lead by a public agency (Coop Ext,
Park and Rec, whatever...), or a coalition with an
'umbrella' non-profit as the guiding force?

That's a bunch of questions. Bottom line - where
should we send 'em? Philly? Or somewhere else? And who
(beyond the ACGA website, which is good and getting
better every day) should they talk to.

Cheers,

Don Boekelheide
Charlote, NC

PS: Yes, we do have some successful local gardens to
see. But they insist on going outside the area as well.


______________________________________________________
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ACGA's=
 services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find
o=
ut how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org


To post an e-mail to the list: community_garden@mallorn.com

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<p>Seattle and Portland are both high grade programs sponsored by a
municipa=
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Parks=
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=
x11<br />f860/951-7244<br /><br /><br />----------------- Original
Message -=
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&lt;dboekelheide@yahoo.com&gt;<b=
r />Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:41:39 -0700 (PDT)<br /><br />Now, here's a
loa=
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ab=
out to go full<br />bore into community gardening. Trouble is, nobody<br
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nows a thing about it among the Park and Rec<br />officials who are charged
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s=
ame city<br />where they are reportedly scaling back community<br />gardens
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in favor of little suburban clone 'lawns' on<br />vacant lots, since they
ar=
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that'=
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limit=
ed to hydroponic agribusinesses, a<br />vision that puts green (money) well
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ahead of green<br />(flowers, herbs and veggies).<br /><br />I'm not
convinc=
ed by Philly's research, and I'm<br />certainly not interested in that
appro=
ach to community<br />gardening and greening in Charlotte, where we're
just<=
br />getting started. I appreciated that Philly has raised<br />some tough
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ssues for debate - don't get me wrong! But<br />-<br /><br />My question is
=
this:<br /><br />What is the best model community garden and greening<br
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rogram in the country? Why? What's the best place to<br />send a bunch of
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whatever...), or a coalition with an<br />'umbrella' non-profit as the
guidi=
ng force?<br /><br />That's a bunch of questions. Bottom line - where<br
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hould we send 'em? Philly? Or somewhere else? And who<br />(beyond the ACGA
=
website, which is good and getting<br />better every day) should they talk
t=
o.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Don Boekelheide<br />Charlote, NC<br /><br
=
/>PS: Yes, we do have some successful local gardens to<br />see. But they
in=
sist on going outside the area as well.<br /><br /><br
/>___________________=
___________________________________<br />The American Community Gardening
As=
sociation listserve is only one of ACGA's services to community gardeners.
T=
o learn more about the ACGA and to find out how to join, please go to
http:/=
/www.communitygarden.org<br /><br /><br />To post an e-mail to the list:
com=
munity_garden@mallorn.com<br /><br />To subscribe, unsubscribe or change
you=
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https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden=
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Message: 3
charset="iso-8859-1"
Subject: RE: [cg] A good model?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:09:06 -0400
From: "Fred Conrad" <fred.conrad@acfb.org>
To: "Don Boekelheide" <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>,
<community_garden@mallorn.com>

hey Don,

Philadelphia has amazing community gardens but for comparison sake check out
the population density - Philadelphia has about 10,000 more people per
square mile than most southern cities.

this is not an answer to your question about 'best model' but your officials
might get a more realistic comparison in Atlanta or Birmingham.  unless they
just want to go hang out in Philly, which is always good.
fgc

Fred Conrad
Community Garden Coordinator
Atlanta Community Food Bank
970 Jefferson Street, Atlanta, GA 30318
ph: 404.892.FEED ext 216 fx: 404.892.4026
fred.conrad@acfb.org    www.acfb.org
Our mission is to fight hunger by engaging, educating and empowering our
community.


-----Original Message-----
From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
[mailto:community_garden-admin@mallorn.com]On Behalf Of Don Boekelheide
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:42 PM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] A good model?


Now, here's a loaded questions for us all:

Charlotte, NC, where I live, is just about to go full
bore into community gardening. Trouble is, nobody
knows a thing about it among the Park and Rec
officials who are charged with setting up and leading
the program. They want to go to Philadelphia on a
'fact-finding mission'.

That's all well and good, Sally McCabe is there, they
have a wonderful history. But it is also the same city
where they are reportedly scaling back community
gardens in favor of little suburban clone 'lawns' on
vacant lots, since they are 'easier to manage
successfully'. They also just issued a report that's
very skeptical of urban agriculture, with guarded
optimism limited to hydroponic agribusinesses, a
vision that puts green (money) well ahead of green
(flowers, herbs and veggies).

I'm not convinced by Philly's research, and I'm
certainly not interested in that approach to community
gardening and greening in Charlotte, where we're just
getting started. I appreciated that Philly has raised
some tough issues for debate - don't get me wrong! But
-

My question is this:

What is the best model community garden and greening
program in the country? Why? What's the best place to
send a bunch of open-minded but skeptical good ol'
gals and guys who want to see an effective program in
action? And what's the best way (if there is one) to
set up a program - lead by a public agency (Coop Ext,
Park and Rec, whatever...), or a coalition with an
'umbrella' non-profit as the guiding force?

That's a bunch of questions. Bottom line - where
should we send 'em? Philly? Or somewhere else? And who
(beyond the ACGA website, which is good and getting
better every day) should they talk to.

Cheers,

Don Boekelheide
Charlote, NC

PS: Yes, we do have some successful local gardens to
see. But they insist on going outside the area as well.


______________________________________________________
The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's
services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find
out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org


To post an e-mail to the list:  community_garden@mallorn.com

To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 20:28:16 -0400
To: dboekelheide@yahoo.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
From: "Libby J. Goldstein" <libby@igc.org>
Subject: [cg] Model

Not only is PHS absolutely downgrading community gardening and
similar activities, but the Penn Stat Urban Gardening Program has
been disbanded.

New York and Seattle might be much better models.

Libby


--__--__--

Message: 5
From: "utahgardens" <utahgardens@comcast.net>
To: "'Don Boekelheide'" <dboekelheide@yahoo.com>,
<community_garden@mallorn.com>
Subject: RE: [cg] A good model?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:48:53 -0600
charset="US-ASCII"

Not knowing first hand, but I have heard that Toronto is one of North
America's leaders in community gardens run by public Parks and Rec. Dept. I
think they have over 90 gardens. And since the ACGA conference is there in
Oct.... and they are offering a session specifically for municipalities and
one of those sessions includes start up workshops.... This would be where I
would encourage them to go.

Shane
Utah GARDENS

That is where and when I would send them

-----Original Message-----
From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
[mailto:community_garden-admin@mallorn.com] On Behalf Of Don Boekelheide
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 1:42 PM
To: community_garden@mallorn.com
Subject: [cg] A good model?

Now, here's a loaded questions for us all:

Charlotte, NC, where I live, is just about to go full
bore into community gardening. Trouble is, nobody
knows a thing about it among the Park and Rec
officials who are charged with setting up and leading
the program. They want to go to Philadelphia on a
'fact-finding mission'.

That's all well and good, Sally McCabe is there, they
have a wonderful history. But it is also the same city
where they are reportedly scaling back community
gardens in favor of little suburban clone 'lawns' on
vacant lots, since they are 'easier to manage
successfully'. They also just issued a report that's
very skeptical of urban agriculture, with guarded
optimism limited to hydroponic agribusinesses, a
vision that puts green (money) well ahead of green
(flowers, herbs and veggies).

I'm not convinced by Philly's research, and I'm
certainly not interested in that approach to community
gardening and greening in Charlotte, where we're just
getting started. I appreciated that Philly has raised
some tough issues for debate - don't get me wrong! But
-

My question is this:

What is the best model community garden and greening
program in the country? Why? What's the best place to
send a bunch of open-minded but skeptical good ol'
gals and guys who want to see an effective program in
action? And what's the best way (if there is one) to
set up a program - lead by a public agency (Coop Ext,
Park and Rec, whatever...), or a coalition with an
'umbrella' non-profit as the guiding force?

That's a bunch of questions. Bottom line - where
should we send 'em? Philly? Or somewhere else? And who
(beyond the ACGA website, which is good and getting
better every day) should they talk to.

Cheers,

Don Boekelheide
Charlote, NC

PS: Yes, we do have some successful local gardens to
see. But they insist on going outside the area as well.


______________________________________________________
The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's
services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find
out how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org


To post an e-mail to the list:  community_garden@mallorn.com

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:00:11 -0400
From: Laura Berman <laura@foodshare.net>
To: ACGA listserve <community_garden@mallorn.com>
Subject: [cg] Tom's of Maine grant update (thanks to Lenny)

Hi Everyone,
I didn't see this in my digest form of our listserve so am forwarding it to
you all again--thanks to Lenny Librizzi for this info! (This is NOT
something that the Toronto conference folks are dealing with so please do
not respond to me--use the contact info for the ACGA head office, contained
in Lenny's email, please ;-)

Good luck to all and see you in Toronto,
Laura


-----------------

To all,
FYI, this is an ACGA grant program using funds received from Tom's of
Maine.

The August 15th deadline is to allow the grants to be reviewed and the
winners announced at the ACGA conference in Toronto.

The good news is that the ACGA office will be accepting e-mailed
applications until the deadline at the following e-mail address.

laymanlee27@yahoo.com

Use the subject line : Tom's Of Maine/ACGA grant application

Any questions call - 1-877-ASK-ACGA.

The grant application is on line at
http://www.communitygarden.org/whatsnew.php

Since the form on the web site is a single image .pdf , I am including
cut and pasted text for you to create a word document to submit.

Cover Page:

2004 Tom's of Maine/ACGA Grant Form
"Community Gardens: Bringing People Closer to Nature"


       Tom's of Maine and ACGA recognize the valuable role community
gardens play in bringing
       individuals and communities closer to nature, at the same time,
appreciating the power and
       beauty of plants and herbs. To support these efforts, Tom's of Maine
will assist ACGA in
       recognizing 15 community gardens that are either established or in
the development stage,
       with grants of $1000 to community garden groups across North America.

Garden Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Province:
Country:
Zip Code:
Contact:                               Alternate Contact:

Email:                                         Email:
Phone: (D)            (E)                     Phone: (D)            (E)

Please return this page and attach additional sheets to describe the
following (Limit 250 words):

- How the community garden is or will be used as a tool to bring people
closer to nature.
- The impact and positive contributions anticipated that benefit the
community.
- How does the garden address some of todays social issues, such as food
security,
   environmental justice, poverty, open space, urban renewal etc.
- Names, telephone numbers, and contact information of three people who
know of the project.
- Supportive documents such as photos, press releases, clippings,
citations, etc.

Grantees will be announced in Toronto at ACGA's 25th Anniversary
Conference, October 2, 2004
during the annual luncheon.



Good luck to all.

Lenny Librizzi






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