Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #544 - 3 msgs

I am looking for community garden contact info in Rochester, NY. I am an AmeriCorps member working for FOODLINK, the local foodbank, trying to find people interested in starting their own community garden.
Kellie Schaffer, kellie@foodlnk.org, 716-328-3380 ext. 25 At 12:00 PM 12/15/00 -0600, you wrote:
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> 1. New York Gardeners . . . (Michael Drum)
> 2. Community Gardens vs Housing - Large Loss in the Bronx (Honigman, Adam)
> 3. Montana-bound (Barbara Hardy)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:48:08 -0800
>From: Michael Drum <mjd2@earthlink.net>
>To: "community_garden@mallorn.com" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>Subject: [cg] New York Gardeners . . .
>
>Hi,
>I have a friend who's moving to New York. She's a gardener and a
>Permaculturist, and I told her I'd help her transition by finding
>community garden information.
> I know much has been posted before, but if Adam Honigman and other
>New York gardeners could e-mail with info on the Community Garden
>network in your city, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
> Mike Drum
>mjd2@earthlink.net
>
>
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>Message: 2
>From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
>To: "'community_garden@mallorn.com'" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:49:25 -0500
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>Subject: [cg] Community Gardens vs Housing - Large Loss in the Bronx
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>Comrades:
>
>An update.
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>Happy gardening,
>Adam Honigman
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>> From dave.lutz Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:42:35 -0500 remote from TREEBRANCH.COM
>> From: dave.lutz@TREEBRANCH.COM (Dave Lutz)
>> Subject: CYBERGARDENS: Officials Back Housing Over Bronx Gardens
>> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:40:06 -0500
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>> >
>> > December 15, 2000
>> > Officials Back Housing Over Bronx Gardens
>> > By BARBARA STEWART
>> > The City Council Land Use Committee voted yesterday to bulldoze 10
>> community
>> > gardens on city-owned land in the South Bronx, including one that
>> > neighborhood residents planted 33 years ago, to build 204 apartments for
>>
>> > moderate-income homeowners.
>> >
>> > But supporters of the gardens, including Council members and South Bronx
>>
>> > gardeners, expressed optimism about saving the gardens when the issue
>> comes
>> > before the Finance Committee and the City Council on Tuesday.
>> >
>> > And several Council members vowed to push forward a bill that would
>> require a
>> > thorough review of each of the more than 600 community gardens on
>> city-owned
>> > lots before they could be sold or closed.
>> >
>> > But the two housing projects that will replace the 10 gardens were
>> approved
>> > by a wide margin. The lack of housing for moderate-income families in
>> the
>> > South Bronx is "a crisis," said Councilwoman June M. Eisland of the
>> Bronx,
>> > expressing a feeling that others echoed.
>> >
>> > "We're having to choose between one good program and another good
>> program,"
>> > Ms. Eisland said. "But we need moderately priced housing and can't let
>> 204
>> > homes be lost."
>> >
>> > After yesterday's meeting, South Bronx residents, including many
>> retirees who
>> > have been traveling to City Hall monthly for two years to try to save
>> their
>> > gardens, spoke of the land, sounding rueful but unsurprised at the vote.
>> They
>> > listed the tomatoes, corn and eggplant they had grown, and described the
>>
>> > neighborhood schoolchildren who had had their first experiences with
>> > gardening, and their discovery that vegetables originate from seeds
>> planted
>> > in the ground, not from cans on supermarket shelves.
>> >
>> > "We have hundreds of people coming in and out of the gardens every nice
>> day,"
>> > said Verna Lee Judge, 82, after recounting the months she and others
>> spent
>> > clearing a garbage- strewn vacant lot in 1967. The lot, on Caldwell
>> Avenue,
>> > was eventually turned into Franklin Memorial Garden, the Bronx's oldest
>>
>> > community garden, which once won a city award as the most beautiful in
>> New
>> > York. "The children socialize," Ms. Judge said. "The seniors socialize
>> and
>> > knit. It's a haven, really a haven."
>> >
>> > All agreed that the larger issue was forcing the city, especially the
>> Housing
>> > Preservation and Development Department, to provide open, green space in
>> its
>> > housing projects.
>> >
>> > The choice before the Land Use Committee yesterday exemplified the
>> difficulty
>> > of choosing between badly needed housing and the green space that
>> contributes
>> > to quality of life, all the Council members said.
>> >
>> > "It's either gardens and no housing or housing and no gardens," said
>> > Councilman A. Gifford Miller of Manhattan. "It's a false choice. We need
>> both
>> > housing and open space. H.P.D. doesn't want to protect any gardens."
>> >
>> > Carol Abrams, a spokeswoman for the housing preservation department,
>> said
>> > that it "includes permanent open space in as many developments as
>> possible."
>> >
>> > "We have playgrounds, gardens, yards and lawns," she said. "We add trees
>>
>> > whenever possible."
>> >
>> > "There's an enormous demand," she added, "for homeownership housing."
>> >
>> > The community gardens bill would provide a way of evaluating each garden
>> when
>> > the city decides that the lot should be sold or cleared. The review
>> would
>> > look at the number of gardeners and visitors, the garden's quality and
>> its
>> > overall importance to the neighborhood.
>> >
>> > Supporters of the bill say it would allow a logical, coordinated way to
>>
>> > approach competing issues: how to save the gardens, many of which are 10
>> or
>> > 20 years old, and how to provide much-needed housing. The review would
>> also
>> > provide mitigation, requiring the city to provide open green space to
>> replace
>> > that which it sells or bulldozes.
>> >
>> >
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>Message: 3
>From: "Barbara Hardy" <bhhardy@bellsouth.net>
>To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 10:13:24 -0500
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>Subject: [cg] Montana-bound
>
>Hi,
>
>My family is relocating from Charlotte, NC to Billings, MT in a couple of
>weeks. If any of you good folk know of community-oriented gardening
>resources in that area, I'd be glad to know of them.
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Barbara
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Michael Drum <mjd2@earthlink.net>
>To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
>Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 11:48 PM
>Subject: [cg] New York Gardeners . . .
>
>
>> Hi,
>> I have a friend who's moving to New York. She's a gardener and a
>> Permaculturist, and I told her I'd help her transition by finding
>> community garden information.
>> I know much has been posted before, but if Adam Honigman and other
>> New York gardeners could e-mail with info on the Community Garden
>> network in your city, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
>> Mike Drum
>> mjd2@earthlink.net
>>
>>
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