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RE: re: selling produce


The only thing I could think of adding to Tom Kerr's sage advice is for you
to check out your local municipalities codes to see if there are any
restrictions on farming within town or city  limits. This issue would not
occur with "gardening" but if someone is running a truck farm out of a cg,
some local hard-nose might raise the issue.

Best wishes,
Adam Honigman

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kerr, Thomas J. [SMTP:KerrT@missouri.edu]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 26, 2000 10:58 AM
> To:	'Bob Petersen'; 'ACGA Community Gardens List'
> Subject:	[cg] re: selling produce
> Bob,
> Kansas City Community Gardens has a ten-acre, 108-family parcel with 100
> 25x40 ft plots and numerous raised beds. The neighborhood sucks more
> because
> of derilict housing stock than the low-income residents living in them. 
> However, when I approached media for coverage of the Food Circles
> Networking
> Project and the Troost Community Market, a local Saturday volunteer-run
> farmers' market in the heart of the city, with the natural tie-in of
> community gardeners available to sell as producers to their neighbors
> (food
> and money exchange is positive), well KCCG requested that I not let on to
> the entire city, via public television, that fresh, marketable produce was
> sitting on the ground, ready to pick. 
> Citing previous problems with looting youth who jump the fence and pick
> with
> large shopping bags, they believed that the fewer people who knew about
> the
> value of the produce the better. I obliged by asking the camera man from
> one
> tv station to position his lens when shooting and interviewing away from
> any
> recognizable landmarks. We had six community gardeners sell at the Troost
> Community Market in 2000, and they all reported positive feedback (and
> some
> otherwise) about the experience, so we considered the efforts of inviting
> community gardeners worthwhile from a Market and Outreach perspective. We
> also keep in the back of our minds the KCCG concern.
> It seems to me that the role of cg's is to allow people to grow what they
> can and do with it what they will. The limitations might be set at a
> garden
> meeting (if you hold one), but if a church or non-profit were growing lots
> of corn to use as a fund-raiser, who's problem is it? The garden
> overseers?
> I don't think so. Similarly, when food is grown in the city, sold to
> residents in the city, isn't that the most agreeable form of food
> security,
> of enterprise, of community spirit? I think so. The Food Circles
> Networking
> Project, Community Food Security Coalition, ACGA, Extension agencies, USDA
> all have similar proposals identifying community gardening as integral
> parts
> of a local food system. Market gardening is catching on, and makes great
> use
> of space, if everyone in the cg is agreeable to the methods used by market
> gardeners. 
> Issues of concern: 
> 	continued safety of other gardeners - if the crop is recognized as
> more valuable than others' simple varieties of herbs & greens, the KC
> Community Gardens position makes perfect sense and should be taken into
> account. No sense in jeopardizing safety of gardeners if solutions can be
> met.
> 	equitable contribution to the garden - if market gardeners are
> remiss in their dues, fees, or donations to the garden project, you have
> something to complain about. 
> 	the rest of the gardeners - be certain any complaints are reasonable
> and that all other gardeners' voices are heard. Seek out the opinions of
> those who aren't speaking up - most likely they'll have a rational idea
> regarding the issues. If everyone has a grievance, and they are
> substantial
> reasons for complaining (the market gardener is using too much water and
> hogging the hoses; the mkt gardener is using more chemicals than the cg
> by-laws permit; the market gardener is using GMOs and the drift is causing
> problems to other varities) than you have a reason for approaching the mkt
> gardener.
> 	above all else - someone in the garden management should be neutral
> at all times, if the issue has gotten to the point of name-calling or
> gossip
> beyond the control and good sense of the management maybe an outside
> mediator can be brought in from the local housing or community development
> agency. American Friends Service Committees or local race-relations orgs
> also have good mediation specialists.  
> Of course, in a best case scenario, you'll find a reason to work with your
> gardeners to help them become better market gardeners. 50x50 ft plots
> sound
> like perfect market garden spaces. Sometimes Extension agents can help
> with
> horticulture expertise and the State Dept of Agriculture might have a
> marketing specialist who is increasingly working with other local efforts.
> The local Market might cut a discount for a stall fee if you have more
> than
> one grower requesting access to a stall at the market. The six growers at
> Troost Community Market had small card tables with a dozen pints of
> peppers
> each, they sold out each weekend, and the customers loved knowing that the
> produce was grown fifteen blocks away. Of course, no pesticide or
> herbacides
> were used, so they made fans of the organic-minded clientel also. 
> In short, since not everyone wants to garden, or eat fresh-picked produce,
> or make honest money, all the better that groups like community gardens
> can
> assist encouraging these practices and thereby strengthening our
> communities. This is theoretical and practical too, as there are numerous
> proven examples. Hope your question has been answered by the number of
> replies you've received.  
> Happy holidays, with a foot of snow on the ground, I guess California has
> many advantages to Missouri's seasonality. 
> Tom 
>          ------------------------
> Tom Kerr
> Food Circles Networking Project - Kansas City
> University of Missouri Outreach and Extension
> 2700 E. 18th Street, Suite 240
> Kansas City, MO 64127
> tel: (816) 482-5888
> fax: (816) 482-5880 
> www.foodcircles.missouri.edu
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Bob Petersen [mailto:unkle75bob@home.com]
> 	Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 10:25 PM
> 	To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> 	Subject: [cg] selling produce
> 	In a community garden situation, if you find one of the gardeners is
> only growing one crop in say a 50' x 50' area, and therefore you assume it
> is for sale, what do you do? 
> 	unclebob's gardens in Irvine,CA.
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