Re: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #595 - 7 msgs
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- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:08:31 -0600
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Adam, just read your reply to the folks asking questions about Arkansas. I
am constantly impressed with the amount of knowledge you have. Thanks for
the amazing work you do!! Can you answers questions about any topic? How
'bout the problem I am having with my frig?
Terri Buchanan
Executive Director
Austin Community Gardens
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> 1. arkansas (grow19@aol.com)
> 2. How can i create my own community garden? (bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com)
> 3. Address change (Escamilla, Carolyn)
> 4. RE: Creative Land Acquisition (Fred Conrad)
> 5. RE: garden in anniston, AL (Honigman, Adam)
> 6. RE: arkansas (Honigman, Adam)
> 7. RE: How can i create my own community garden? (Honigman, Adam)
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> Message: 1
> From: Grow19@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:24:22 EST
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] arkansas
>
> Hi All,
> My friend Virginia Dec is moving to Little Rock to co-run a newly opening
> restaurant. A few questions:
> 1.They hope to buy as much as possible from local organic farmers and
would
> like to know what mechanisms are already in place for doing this (farmers'
> co-op, direct purchasing).
> 2. In the long run she would also like to farm and would like to start
> meeting organic farmers to get to know the region, etc. Any
introductions?
> 3. In the short run she'd like to grow on land close in. Are there
community
> garden plots? Any farmers really close in that would like a helper or
> willing to rent a bit of land?
> 4. I know she'd like to meet other chefs (anyone around from the Chefs'
> Collaborative?).
> 5. Any good sized composting programs going on so they can compost they
> kitchen waste?
> Mmm. Good food soon. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
> Judy Tiger, Washington DC
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: Bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:12:54 EST
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] How can i create my own community garden?
>
> My name is Haydee
> I was born in Puerto Rico and was very use to the out doors now I am 55
years
> old and really in such a fast paced city there aren't really many things I
> enjoy doing. I live in an apartment and have many plants all in the house,
> and it has started to get on my husbands nerves since we cant even look
out
> our windows anymore cause I have all the windows occupied by plants and
> flowers that I have bought from different places I have been to.
> I guess what I am trying to say is that I enjoy gardening very much and
> living in an apartment I really cant enjoy it. But I am interested in
> starting a community garden and I have no idea how but every time I see
these
> ugly empty lots I wonder how I can get a permission as in to I turning one
of
> these lots in the Bronx into something worth looking at and at the same
time
> enjoy and entertain myself gardening.
>
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>
> Message: 3
> From: "Escamilla, Carolyn" <CESCAMILLA@sbps.net>
> To: "'community_garden@mallorn.com'" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:01:42 -0700
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Subject: [cg] Address change
>
> Please change address from carolyne@panesu.esu14.k12.ne.us to
> cescamilla@scottsbluff.net.
> Unsubscribe the 'carolyne' address please.
>
> Carolyn Escamilla
> Educator - Fourth Grade
> Roosevelt Elementary School and Community Center
> 1306 9th Avenue
> Scottsbluff, NE 69361
> 308-635-6259
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> From: Fred Conrad <fred.conrad@acfb.org>
> To: "'SoleilPaz@aol.com'" <SoleilPaz@aol.com>,
community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: RE: [cg] Creative Land Acquisition
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:44:08 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Soliel,
> actually, i've heard of the opposite happening. CSX railroad leased some
> property to a non-profit and the city then began taxing the property
because
> it was being used for non-railroad use. go figure.
>
>
> fgc
> Community Garden Coordinator
> Atlanta Community Food Bank
> 970 Jefferson Street, NW
> Atlanta, GA 30318
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SoleilPaz@aol.com [S*@aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:24 PM
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] Creative Land Acquisition
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Our CG group is busily working on finding a home for our garden. Has
> anyone heard of a lease in which the landlord can somehow write off the
> lease
> taxwise?? In all my reading I have not yet come across a situation such as
> this, yet it seems like a viable idea. I welcome any suggestions y'all
might
>
> have for us... Thanks in advance for your consideration.
>
> Soleil Paz Tranquilli
> Elk Grove, CA 95624
>
> "The cure for anything is saltwater: Sweat, tears or the sea." Isak
> Dinesen
>
> Click here: <http://soleilsgarden.homestead.com/index.html> Soleilsgarden
> http://soleilsgarden.homestead.com/index.html
>
> Click <http://www.geocities.com/egcgonline/EGCG_Home.html> here: The Elk
> Grove Community Garden
> http://www.geocities.com/egcgonline/
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
> To: "'daniel bowers'" <danielbowers@yahoo.com>,
> "'community_garden@mallorn.com'" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: RE: [cg] garden in anniston, AL
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:43:27 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Dan et al.:
>
> Note: This e-mail does not constitute legal advice. The writer is not
> engaged in rendering legal, accounting or other professional services, If
> legal advice or other expert tax assistance is required, the service of a
> licensed attorney or certified public accountant should be sought. {Whew,
> this is really how serious incorporation and tax advice is!]
>
> I'm a pretty cheap individual, and a big believer in saving money and
time.
> Dan's suggestion is well taken when you are doing a one-shot
demonstration,
> setting up an organization very quickly and implicitly trust your
> co-incorporators. However, when it comes to Federal and State Tax law, I
> believe that your should do it right the first time.Piggybacking is OK if
> you're willing to cede any part of the control and running of your garden
to
> another organization. Remember, you're at the mercy of the folks who have
> possession of the paper and could become liable for their mistakes or
> shennanigans.
>
> Remember what a corporation is in US law: a body formed and authorized
> under the law to act as a single person although constituted by one or
more
> persons and legally endowed with various rights and duties including the
> capacity of sucession. The 501(c) (3) charitable corporation is something
> you should do once, do right and do for yourselves. This little piece from
> the IRS's digital daily newsletter to tax professinals should give you an
> idea of the complexities of not-for-profit tax law.
>
>
http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/prod/bus_info/tax_pro/irm-part/part07/36070a.html
>
> Good luck!
>
> Happy gardening,
> Adam Honigman
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: daniel bowers [SMTP:danielbowers@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 12:54 AM
> > To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> > Subject: RE: [cg] garden in anniston, AL
> >
> > hi,
> > another easy way to achieve your goal is to piggy back
> > with an organization that already has non profit
> > status (501c3). this will save you the trouble of
> > having to do it yourself. peace groups often have this
> > status and would LOVE to work with agronomists.
> > peace,love,and sunshine
> > dani
> > --- "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com> wrote:
> > > Joey,
> > >
> > > 1) What you need is some pro-bono legal help to set
> > > up your group as a
> > > not-for-profit corporation under the laws of
> > > Alabama. Under the federal tax
> > > system, what you want to become is known as a 501
> > > (c) (3) corporation.
> > > Contact your nearest Unversity with a good law
> > > school. Most law schools have
> > > legal clinics where they do pro-bono work for
> > > indigents and not-for-profit
> > > start ups. Maybe one of you knows a local law firm
> > > that would take your
> > > incorporation as a not-for-profit charitable
> > > organization as one of their
> > > pro-bono cases ( many law firms have that degree of
> > > social responsibility.
> > > The telephone book is a mighty resource. You might
> > > want to give a hollar to
> > > the Trust for Public Land in your part of the world
> > > for leads on attorneys:
> > >
> > > TPL Southeastern Region
> > > Southeast Regional Office Address
> > > Southeast Regional Office
> > > 306 North Monroe
> > > Tallahassee, FL 32301
> > > (850) 222-7911
> > > FAX (850) 222-3133
> > >
> > > link :http://www.tpl.org/tier2_rl.cfm?folder_id=211
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) Go to the elected official ( or the aide - i.e.
> > > the one who does the
> > > work) closest to the area that your garden is sited
> > > with some of the folks
> > > who helped elect him, worked on his campaign, knows
> > > his momma from church.
> > > It might be worth while to have letters from
> > > clergymen and the organizations
> > > that would potentially benefit from your project.
> > > Have your plan laid out
> > > on paper, the names of the volunteers, the nice
> > > person who is willing to
> > > lend you the land, everything. It might be a good
> > > idea to have an informal
> > > conversation with some of your local journalists,
> > > radio and college stations
> > > about your project. Get one of them to come along as
> > > a member of your
> > > working group.
> > >
> > > When you meet with the elected ( or most likely
> > > aide) show him/her all that
> > > all of your ducks are in a row. Tell him that you'd
> > > really like whatever
> > > advice he could give you in finding a pro-bono
> > > lawyer, some low-cost
> > > insurance, etc. You're not ASKING for anything
> > > except advice, a steer to
> > > some free legal aid and perhaps a good word to the
> > > local agricultural
> > > extension for the group. Tell him that he has an
> > > invitation ( i.e. photo
> > > opportunity) at the garden opening.
> > >
> > > Honestly, this is the kind of private,
> > > non-governmentally funded social
> > > service project that legislators adore these days -
> > > thousand dots of light
> > > sorta thing. I wouldn't be surprised if you walk
> > > out of his door with some
> > > good leads to funding.
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > A Good 'ol boy and gardener from NYC's Hell's
> > > Kitchen,
> > >
> > > Adam Honigman
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: joey Roberts
> > > [SMTP:jroberts@trucking2000.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:46 PM
> > > > To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> > > > Subject: [cg] garden in anniston, AL
> > > >
> > > > Hello Sally,
> > > > My friends and I are trying to organize a garden
> > > in Anniston , AL to help
> > > > provide for the various charitable org.s in our
> > > > area, Women's shelter, Salvation Army, Soup Bowl,
> > > ... Help. I am a
> > > > graphic
> > > > artist and self taught gardener. I am stuck on
> > > > the problem of forming a non-profit so that
> > > contributors to our garden can
> > > > write off there donations. We have someone
> > > > willing to let us use there land, but we need the
> > > proper systems in place
> > > > to
> > > > handle there business request's ie. tax write off,
> > > > insurance, liability so on. I would appreciate
> > > any feedback you have and
> > > > would like to see where your org. could help us
> > > > get started this year. thanks so much Joey
> > > Roberts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> Message: 6
> From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
> To: "'Grow19@aol.com'" <Grow19@aol.com>, community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: RE: [cg] arkansas
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:38:13 -0500
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Judy Tiger & Friend:
>
> Some Arkansas Organic Food Co-Ops:
>
> 1) Arkansas
>
> Ozark Cooperative Warehouse
> 1601 Pump Station Road, PO Box 1528
> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72702
> Phone: 501-521-4920 Fax: 501-521-9100
> E-mail: ozarkcoop@aol.com
>
> Ozark Natural Foods Co-op
> 205 W. Dickson
> Fayetteville, Arkansas 72701
> Phone: 501-521-7558
>
> Cove Creek Cooperative
> General Delivery Main Street
> Leslie, Arkansas 72645
> Phone: 501-447-2724
>
>
> 2) A list of Arkansas farmers markets. Some of these farmers have to be
> organic:
>
> http://www.ams.usda.gov/farmersmarkets/states/arkansas.htm
>
> 3) Here is a USDA page on sustainable agriculture:
>
> http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/index.html
>
> 4) Did you know that the "Don't Panic, Eat Organic" website emanates from
> the University of Arkansas? Some good leads can be found here:
>
> http://www.rain.org/~sals/my.html
>
> 5) The Organic Trade Association:
>
> http://www.ota.com/news.htm
>
>
> 6) This is a CSA farm in Arkansas that you might want to contact:
>
> Wildfire Farm
> Marcie Brewster, Diane Schumacher
> 4059 CR 516
> Huntsville, AR 72740
> 870-545-3120
> Wildfirefarm@mailcity.com
> Serves: Carroll, Madison and
> Washington Counties
>
> 7) This link may give you some CSA farms in nearby states that might be
> helpful:
>
> http://www.biodynamics.com/usda/
>
> 8) An Arkansas sustainable energy and technology company that services
> sustainable agriculture:
> Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas (ATTRA)
> P.O. Box 3657
> Fayetteville, AR 72702
> 1-800-346-9140
> M-F 8:30am-4:30pm CST
>
> http://www.attra.org/
>
> 9) American Culinary Federation:
>
> http://www.acfchefs.org/subindex.html
>
> 10) National Restaurant Association with Arkansas link:
>
> http://www.restaurant.org/about_us/join/restaurant.html
>
> 11) Virgina may have graduated from either the Culinary Institute of
America
> or Johnson and Wales ( she certainly knows folks who went to either
> restaurant school.) At any rate, contact either school for alumni living
in
> Arkansas, and fish around for purveyor contacts.
>
> 12) The Yellow pages is always a great resource. Let your fingers do the
> walking...
>
> Good luck, let us know how it works our for you.
>
> Adam Honigman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Grow19@aol.com [SMTP:Grow19@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:24 PM
> > To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> > Subject: [cg] arkansas
> >
> > Hi All,
> > My friend Virginia Dec is moving to Little Rock to co-run a newly
opening
> > restaurant. A few questions:
> > 1.They hope to buy as much as possible from local organic farmers and
> > would
> > like to know what mechanisms are already in place for doing this
(farmers'
> >
> > co-op, direct purchasing).
> > 2. In the long run she would also like to farm and would like to start
> > meeting organic farmers to get to know the region, etc. Any
> > introductions?
> > 3. In the short run she'd like to grow on land close in. Are there
> > community
> > garden plots? Any farmers really close in that would like a helper or
> > willing to rent a bit of land?
> > 4. I know she'd like to meet other chefs (anyone around from the Chefs'
> > Collaborative?).
> > 5. Any good sized composting programs going on so they can compost they
> > kitchen waste?
> > Mmm. Good food soon. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
> > Judy Tiger, Washington DC
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > community_garden maillist - community_garden@mallorn.com
> > https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
>
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>
> Message: 7
> From: "Honigman, Adam" <Adam.Honigman@Bowne.com>
> To: "'Bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com'" <Bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com>,
> community_garden@mallorn.com
> Cc: "'StoneEdie@aol.com'" <StoneEdie@aol.com>,
> "'cybergardens@treebranch.org'" <cybergardens@treebranch.org>
> Subject: RE: [cg] How can i create my own community garden?
> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:45:03 -0500
>
> Haydee:
>
> I'm forwarding your message to Edie Stone, the director of Green Thumb in
> NYC who has impeccable connections with Bronx community gardeners as well
as
> to the NYC cybergardens web site. There is a wonderful group of Bronx
> community activists known as B.U.G. ( Bronx Urban Gardeners) whom I hope
> contact you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Adam Honigman
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com [SMTP:Bonluvclyde4eva@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:13 PM
> > To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> > Subject: [cg] How can i create my own community garden?
> >
> > My name is Haydee
> > I was born in Puerto Rico and was very use to the out doors now I am 55
> > years
> > old and really in such a fast paced city there aren't really many things
I
> >
> > enjoy doing. I live in an apartment and have many plants all in the
house,
> >
> > and it has started to get on my husbands nerves since we cant even look
> > out
> > our windows anymore cause I have all the windows occupied by plants and
> > flowers that I have bought from different places I have been to.
> > I guess what I am trying to say is that I enjoy gardening very much and
> > living in an apartment I really cant enjoy it. But I am interested in
> > starting a community garden and I have no idea how but every time I see
> > these
> > ugly empty lots I wonder how I can get a permission as in to I turning
one
> > of
> > these lots in the Bronx into something worth looking at and at the same
> > time
> > enjoy and entertain myself gardening.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > community_garden maillist - community_garden@mallorn.com
> > https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
>
>
>
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