Burning question, kudos/history addenda
- Subject: [cg] Burning question, kudos/history addenda
- From: Don Boekelheide firstname.lastname@example.org
- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:40:45 -0800 (PST)
First, burning question - Mike, did you take Adam and
Sally to Dirty Frank's for a post-taping irrigation
session? Gardeners need irrigation, too.
Kudos to Mike for having 'em on and to Sally and Adam
for talking. Can't wait to hear it. Also, Betsy is
right - thanks to Anna for her tireless work on this
list, the website, the newsletter, the magazine and
all ACGA communication.
Brief history addenda to Adam's insightful
>The [Liz Christy] garden is lovely, and the iconic
ground zero of the 1970's American
Community Garden Movement in NYC. ( Earlier gardens in
Wisconsin have 1960's founder honors - and there are a
few that were
Victory gardens that never closed.)<
Two additional comments: Alan Chadwick and the
University of California, Santa Cruz, gardens date
from the mid-60s, and represent another essential
stream in the river we've become. So does the unsung
work of Rich Merrill in Santa Barbara in the early
70s, the statewide California Community Gardeners
group that preceded ACGA, and the earlier 'People's
Park' movement in Berkeley.
In a larger sense, local versions of community
gardening were going strong throughout the world
during the 50s and 60s (and long before), not only in
European allotments, but in developing countries and
in the rural American South as well. Gardeners from
these places, who migrated to the States and Canada
and who moved north from Dixie during the 20th
century, bringing their garden traditions and skills
with them, have a place at the head table of any
community garden family reunions.
Don B. Charlotte NC
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> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:39:31 -0500
> Subject: [cg] There is a moderator. Join the ACGA!
> Actually, the list is moderated (so we are not all
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> > Subj: Requesting imformation!
> > Date: 1/11/05 5:39:38 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard
> > From: guardian96
> > To: Adam36055
> > Dear Adam,
> I respect all the different ideas that are presented
> on the list server
> for ACGA. I would like to know who the moderator is
> if its not you?
> I am a Community Garden Coordinator here in Buffalo,
> New York through a
> > community group called United Neighborhoods/CAO.
> We have used many of
> the ideas from the different groups that post to
> the list server. I
> hope this year we get enough funding to actually
> join ACGA.
> > Thank you for all the views presented.
> > Melanie A. Nowicki
> > Community Garden Coordinator
> > United Neighborhoods/CAO
> > 1092 Main Street
> > Buffalo, New York 14209
> > Phone:716-867-3225
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> Dear Ms. Nowicki,
> There is no moderator on the ACGA listserv, just
> alot of community
> who touch type! We use this listserv as the "back
> fence," where we
> recipes, stories, etc.
> You can get ACGA membership cheap, for the price of
> a pizza and a six
> basically ( $25 a year) as an individual gardener -
> and it's tax
> because the ACGA is a 501(c)(3) corporation. Who
> knows? Maybe United
> Neighborhoods/CAO will cough up this as a
> professional membership, and
> it gives you access and discounts on the ACGA's
> various books and
> curriculums. An amazing value,
> Message: 2
> From: Adam36055@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:05:28 EST
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org,
> Subject: [cg] Avalon's Offer to the Gardeners
> I was forwarded this by a one of the designated
> representatives of the Liz
> Christy garden listed below. Please read it
> carefully. It is an extraordinary,
> almost courtly letter from a developer.
> I think we need to bring the Liz Christy gardeners
> to the table, again, as
> soon as possible. There are all kinds of
> facilitators available for this kind of
> meeting. Jane Weissman, from the GG board and the
> Battery Conservancy board
> is a much older and wiser head than most of us,
> including me.
> Let's not squander this opportunity to have both
> housing, albeit market rate,
> and an adjacent, flourishing garden. Housing and
> gardens has happened in
> Brooklyn, Hell's Kitchen and throughout the city.
> Let's see if we can't come to a
> solution here.
> I've rarely seen a developer make an offer like
> this. The discussions have
> to proceed without a Green Guerillas obstructive
> lawsuit, again. )I have the
> document in attachment form for anyone who wants it.
> In solidarity, and love,
> Adam Honigman
> TO: Elizabeth DeGaetano, Penny Jones, Don
> Loggins (Designated
> Representatives of the Liz Christy Garden)
> FROM: Robert Paley (AvalonBay Communities, Inc.)
> COPY TO: Jack Linn (NYC Parks), Edie Stone (NYC
> Parks), Juan Barahona,
> (HPD), Bill Logan (Urban Arborists), Andrew Forsberg
> (AvB), Bill Fellenberg (AvB)
> SUBJECT: LIZ CHRISTY GARDEN PROTECTION PLAN
> DATE: January 4, 2004
> Pursuant to our discussions yesterday, I am
> submitting the outline below to
> clarify the latest details of the protection plan
> for Liz Christy Garden. The
> points so noted in underscored italics are details
> we discussed which
> supplement the original plan (in regular face)
> approved by the City of New York in the
> Land Disposition Agreement regarding the Cooper
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