[cg] Fwd: Re: rainfall catchment.
>Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:25:50 -0700
>From: "Doug and Lindy Barnes" <email@example.com> (by way of Lucy
>Subject: Re: rainfall catchment.
>"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." Edward
>We would like to network with other desert gardeners who are growing their
>own food, working at simple methods of using graywater, and composting.
>Doug and Lindy Barnes at firstname.lastname@example.org
>From: Dawn G Kazmer <email@example.com>
>To: firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com>
>Cc: community_garden@Ag.Arizona.Edu <community_garden@Ag.Arizona.Edu>;
>Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 6:47 AM
>Subject: Re: rainfall catchment.
>>Phoenix has a 7 inch per year rainfall. It is interesting to think
>>about the contrast with northern Ohio (43"). Several books discuss
>>arid plants but there is such a range among them that one needs a table
>>listing rainfall amounts for the various origination places of the
>> Trenching uphill from plants is about the only thing we can do in the
>>community in which I live. Cisterns have caused so many child trapping
>>accidents that they are not allowed, here. My whole community has
>>black plastic placed under gravel to fight "weeds". When it rains the
>>water rushes onto the streets which fill curb to curb to fill the storm
>>sewers and carry all the water away from plants.
>> It is so amazing that in the most arid place of all, no one seemed to
>>realize that the only place weeds grow to any size is where they are
>>watered regularly. Non native plants don't germinate and native plants
>>get so little water that they are easy to pull out by hand for the first
>>year of their life. Most of the native seed doesn't even germinate for
>>lack of water. 90% of the ones that do germinate die form heat and lack
>>of water before they are a foot tall. We've found the problem and it
>> Furthermore, our community uses those blowers to keep it "clean" so
>>there is no debris to enrich the soil so it can hold more water for the
>>few plants we grow. And, in our clean and "neatness" we plant almost
>>nothing because we would have to water it so our air has fewer filters
>>and our pollution increases every year. And, we wish to prosper so we
>>are growing our metropolitan area as fast as possible ~ this is
>>progress................... The ignorance of man is probably a
>>On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:35:05 -0800 "Tim Pope" <> writes:
>>>Hello everyone looking for water. I was browsing the net for
>>>catchment sites and found very few of any consequence. This is not
>>>be derogitory, just discouraging. Even though the dates of the items
>>>community garden were from 1997, I thought I would still reply.
>>>My name is Tim Pope and I am President of Northwest Water
>>>Management Inc. located in Friday Harbor Washington. Contrary to our
>>>location in "wet" Puget Sound, we really have a very dry seasonal
>>>environment in the San Juan Islands. Our average rainfall is just 22
>>>inches per year with a nearly dry may through sept cycle. The islands
>>>mostly rocky with overburdens of clay, or alluvial soils. The hard
>>>areas support wells of very low production and marginal quality. The
>>>with alluvial soils have good rainfall recovery, but are extremely
>>>suseptable to salt water intrusion from the surrounding Puget Sound
>>>Straights of Georgia.
>>>To solve an increasing water quantity/quality problem, San Juan county
>>>been very far thinking regarding new construction and solutions to
>>>As of September 1998, a building permit may be issued based on
>>>catchment as a houshold water source INCLUDING POTABLE USE. We have
>>>choice here but to come up with alternative sources. We have no
>>>creeks to dam, and can't very well pipe fresh water accross 20 miles
>>>seafloor. I believe we are the first community in the country to look
>>>the future and tap the original source rather than "mining" more water
>>>a depleted acquifer.
>>>Feel free to contact me with questions..............Tim Pope
>>>the popes in friday harbor
Lucy K. Bradley
Extension Agent, Urban Horticulture
The University of Arizona
4341 E Broadway Rd.
Phoenix, AZ 85040-8807
Phone: (602) 470-8086 ext 323
Fax: (602) 470-8092
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