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Re: More on Starbucks

  • Subject: Re: [cg] More on Starbucks
  • From: David Smead <smead@amplepower.com>
  • Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 23:41:32 -0700 (PDT)

Walter,

Perhaps a different reference point is needed.  Making a choice which
is in your best interest is an accepted tenet of capitalism, but the
evaluation of what that best interest is, is usually too short sighted
to be of regenerative value, and ultimately is probably not the best
value.

Just as a healthy soil consists of a rich bio-diversity, a healthy
economy must provide a place for those who wish to particpate in a mode
above conditions of neo-slavery.  Large corporations can yield the
power of quantity purchases, and delivery their wares via the labor of
part time, underpaid, underinsured employees.  That works for you in
the short run, and your acceptance of lowest cost at the moment, works
very well for the monied principals behind the organization.

I like to squeeze a nickel like everyone else, but not necessarily when
it comes to things I ingest.  At the locally owned coffee shop where
I'm a regular, the owners make sure that they have my favorite
blueberry scone on hand for me.  At the local fish market, they always
give me a center cut of wild salmon, rather than giving me an end cut.
At the Farmer's market on Sunday, where I frequently get fresh local
oysters, the proprieter has sometimes set aside some oysters for me
before they ran out, thinking that I would be by later.

These are all examples of other people looking out for my best
interests.  With that in mind, start reading this email again.

\/
Sincerely,

David Smead
http://www.amplepower.com

On Sat, 1 May 2004, Walter Romanowski wrote:

> I've now read references to 'social justice' about
> three or four times in about a 24 hour period on this
> listserve.  Could somebody please provide a
> comprehensive, non-PC definition of this for me?  I'm
> sorry to say that the use of this term seems to have
> socialist underpinnings, so please prove my fears
> wrong!
>
> How is it that Starbucks is so bad for growing their
> business?  The smaller shops need to find a way to
> survive through creative offerings or they will not
> have customers,  and they will eventually be forced to
> change or close.  The people who frequent Starbucks do
> so out of their own choice - I've never seen anyone
> pressured in any way to chose Starbucks over the
> single-shop privately owned stores.  If Starbucks gets
> their coffee so much cheaper than the so-called little
> guys, why is it that the price differences between the
> two are about non-existant or in some cases Starbucks
> is actually more expensive.  When we're spending our
> $3.55 for a med. frap at Starbucks, another dime or so
> really doesn't matter.  I would frequent my own local
> shop if they were open at 5:00AM when I leave for work
> in the morning, but unfortunately they are not and
> Starbucks is.  Its a choice, not a conspiracy.
> I'm sure Adam can attest to the fact that in some
> cases unionization is a good thing and in others it is
> a detriment.  I've seen both sides of unions and they
> have helped a good number of people, but they also
> have hindered growth of individuals and of businesses.
>
> Funny thing, if we are in Iraq for the oil, explain to
> me how it is that the price of oil now is higher than
> it was a year ago?  What about the environmental
> problems in that country under Hussein that are not
> being reported?  Won't our American technology allow
> them to develop with less pollution?  I would say
> without a doubt, yes!  Under a democratic system, when
> finally established over there, people will be free to
> start-up community gardens without the threat of
> horrible consequences.  Then Starbucks will open and
> give the gardeners free coffee grounds for the compost
> piles!
>
> Walter Romanowski
> La Mirada, CA
>
>
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