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Mpls Mn case in point - location first, please

  • Subject: [cg] Mpls Mn case in point - location first, please
  • From: Lynne Mayo lynnne@usfamily.net
  • Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 14:03:39 -0400

Mpls, MN. gardener gives case in point regarding starting all messages with
your location....

Is the Clinton Ave garden the one in Mpls?  If so, I want to come help with
the cleanup and get some of them there bulbs being offered.  I'm on my bike,
though, so if you are in another state, I'll have to leave before dawn, and
I want to prepare.  I have to let my boss know I won't be back for a couple
days.  Maybe weeks.  Months, maybe.  That might be good for me.  Ride to the
Clinton Ave. Garden, which I thought was ten blocks or so away, and find it
takes months to get there. I need the break and the exercise.  My boss might
appreciate it, too. Finally, he can get rid of me.

Love Life, Earth, Neighbor
LLEN@usfamily.net
612-722-7356


> From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
> Reply-To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:00:11 -0500
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #2253 - 7 msgs
> 
> 
> Send community_garden mailing list submissions to
> community_garden@mallorn.com
> 
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> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than
> "Re: Contents of community_garden digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
> 1. Re: Fencing (yarrow@sfo.com)
> 2. Mpls. gardener finds it disconcerting (Lynne Mayo)
> 3. clarifying location in messages (grow19@aol.com)
> 4. One approach to fencing (Farber, Chris)
> 5. Re: Edie Stone, Director of NYC Greenthumb  Speaks....Finally.
> (stoneedie@aol.com)
> 6. RE: Fencing (Cary Oshins)
> 7. Compost Giveback in Brooklyn NY USA this weekend (Kirby, Ellen)
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 1
> <435AE215.5010005@grandecom.net>
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:51:43 -0700
> To: "eliz" <eak@grandecom.net>
> From: yarrow@sfo.com
> Subject: Re: [cg] Fencing
> Cc: "ACGA listserve" <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> 
> If you want the path to be open and want to cut down on vandalism, one
> alternative is a fence to mark boundaries, and gates (open or latched) to
> mark the paths. Especially when plants are small, it's a good idea to make
> the boundaries and paths obvious. Sometimes nongardeners simply do not see
> plants, or don't see the difference between weeds and cultivated plants.
> 
> We have a fence, which serves to mark the perimeter (with roses and
> perennials around the outside) and to keep dogs out. Dog-walkers love to
> use the path around the garden, and dogs do understand and respect gates,
> so we can leave the gates open when working in the garden. This time of
> year, the squirrels like to sit on the gates and eat tomatoes.
> 
> Tanya
> Palo Alto, Calif.
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:38:25 -0400
> From: Lynne Mayo <lynnne@usfamily.net>
> To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: [cg] Mpls. gardener finds it disconcerting
> 
> that it is so hard to determine if a message is from Minneapolis/St. Paul,
> or out of state.   Is there some way to make this clear in the list preview
> so those of us who wish can skip messages about seed give aways occuring
> across the country?  Thanks...or maybe I just don't know how to read the
> messages correctly?
> 
> Love Life, Earth, Neighbor
> LLEN@usfamily.net
> 612-722-7356
> 
> 
>> From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
>> Reply-To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:00:03 -0500
>> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
>> Subject: community_garden digest, Vol 1 #2245 - 4 msgs
>> 
>> 
>> Send community_garden mailing list submissions to
>> community_garden@mallorn.com
>> 
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit
>> https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> community_garden-request@mallorn.com
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
>> 
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than
>> "Re: Contents of community_garden digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>> 1. CCG Cleanup this Saturday (adam36055@aol.com)
>> 2. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[tb-cybergardens]:=20Edie=20Stone,=20Direct?=
>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?or=20of=20NYC=20Greenthumb=A0=20Speaks....Finally.=A0?=
>> (laura10012@aol.com)
>> 3. Edie Stone, Director of NYC Greenthumb  Speaks....Finally.
>> (adam36055@aol.com)
>> 
>> -- __--__-- 
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> From: Adam36055@aol.com
>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:14:08 EDT
>> To: cybergardens@treebranch.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
>> Subject: [cg] CCG Cleanup this Saturday
>> 
>> Friends, 
>> 
>> If you're in town, and want to venture up to midtown,get a little dirty, meet
>> some visiting gardeners from St. Louus, throw some fresh herbs on your
>> mid-day pizza and beer and maybe get filmed  by  a Japanese video crew (it's
>> some 
>> kind of ecology show, been trying to explain that there are very few tomatoes
>> being harvested in October, but there seems to be a language problem) come on
>> up. Our gate is open, and if it ain't raining too much, will probably be fun.
>> 
>> The Clinton Community Garden is located on West 48th Street, between 9th &
>> 10th avenues, mid block, on the south side of the street.  Easy to find -
>> there's this gate, behind a few obscenely huge street trees that the garden
>> adopted. 
>> ( they're about 10 feet taller than the other street trees on the block)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best wishes, 
>> Adam Honigman
>> Volunteer
>> Clinton Community Garden
>> 
>> 
>>> Subj: CCG Cleanup this Saturday
>>> Date: 10/13/05 4:17:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>>> From: jspahn@nyc.rr.com
>>> 
>>> Sent from the Internet
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please join us for Fall Clean-up Day at Clinton Community Garden this
>>> Saturday, October 15th, from 9am until 3pm.  All volunteers welcome -
>>> come for an hour or two, or longer if you wish.  We will be planting
>>> bulbs, sorting tools, working on compost and more.  A limited quantity
>>> of bulbs will be available for rear garden plots.
>>> 
>>> Rain date: Sunday, October 16th.
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>> Please join us for Fall Clean-up Day at Clinton Community Garden this
>> Saturday, October 15th, from 9am until 3pm.  All volunteers welcome -
>> come for an hour or two, or longer if you wish.  We will be planting
>> bulbs, sorting tools, working on compost and more.  A limited quantity
>> of bulbs will be available for rear garden plots.
>> 
>> Rain date: Sunday, October 16th.
>> 
>> 
>> -- __--__-- 
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> From: Laura10012@aol.com
>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:26:28 EDT
>> To: Adam36055@aol.com, StoneEdie@aol.com, williamhohauser@earthlink.net,
>> jjackson@nyrp.org, tjbrandt@treebranch.com, susan@greenthumbnyc.org,
>> stoneedieedie@parks.nyc.gov, plantlot@rcn.com, Plantlot@aol.com,
>> pgovernale@ny4p.org, nymagnolia@mindspring.com,
>> nseverance@audubon.org, nicole@greenthumbnyc.edu,
>> manhattanbotanical.garden@verizon.net, m_leger@earthlink.net,
>> kchura@nyhs.org, JonC@LaPlacaCohen.com, joncrow@earthlink.net,
>> Joanne.Morse@tpl.org, gwenne.hayes-stewart@mobot.org,
>> susan.fields@parks.nyc.gov, ellenkirby@bbg.org, edie.stone@parks.com,
>> bfeldt@verizon.net, commissioner@parks.nyc.gov,
>> cybergardens@treebranch.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
>> Subject: [cg] 
>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20[tb-cybergardens]:=20Edie=20Stone,=20Direct?=
>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?or=20of=20NYC=20Greenthumb=A0=20Speaks....Finally.=A0?=
>> 
>> Dear Adam-
>> 
>> It's my curse to be the soul of understanding where other people's points of
>> view are concerned, and I feel I must speak up in GreenThumb's defense.   I
>> might agree they were negligent so-and-sos if they had not decided to assume
>> the 
>> community gardens under Parks" general city coverage for this period "between
>> carriers".   Hopefully, this is in fact the case.    I think no one wanted a
>> mass panic.   I know I had to scrape myself off the ceiling when this first
>> came to light via your AGCA listserv exchange with the 6th & B gardener.
>> 
>> Also, I would have expected a cancellation notice from NOSC before a
>> cancellation announcement from GreenThumb.   Frankly, the last word from NOSC
>> was the 
>> surcharge notice last year, then nothing.   Though, who wants to be the
>> bearer
>> of bad news?   
>> 
>> Anyhow, I share your hope, Adam, if not your belief "that under Parks our
>> gardens will always be accessible to the communities we serve - not private
>> garden clubs functioning under the community garden label."    Oooh, don't
>> get
>> me 
>> started! 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Laura Braddock
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- __--__-- 
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> From: Adam36055@aol.com
>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:36:26 EDT
>> To: StoneEdie@aol.com, williamhohauser@earthlink.net, jjackson@nyrp.org,
>> tjbrandt@treebranch.com, susan@greenthumbnyc.org,
>> stoneedieedie@parks.nyc.gov, plantlot@rcn.com, Plantlot@aol.com,
>> pgovernale@ny4p.org, nymagnolia@mindspring.com,
>> nseverance@audubon.org, nicole@greenthumbnyc.edu,
>> manhattanbotanical.garden@verizon.net, m_leger@earthlink.net,
>> kchura@nyhs.org, JonC@LaPlacaCohen.com, joncrow@earthlink.net,
>> Joanne.Morse@tpl.org, gwenne.hayes-stewart@mobot.org,
>> susan.fields@parks.nyc.gov, ellenkirby@bbg.org, edie.stone@parks.com,
>> bfeldt@verizon.net, commissioner@parks.nyc.gov,
>> cybergardens@treebranch.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
>> Subject: [cg] Edie Stone, Director of NYC Greenthumb  Speaks....Finally.
>> 
>> This is Adam Honigman speaking  as an individual community gardener.
>> 
>> I must say that I am delighted that the NYC Community Gardening fraternity
>> has finally been informed by Ms. Stone, Director of Green Thumb,  about our
>> new 
>> insurance status.
>> 
>> However, the period between when Ms. Stone knew about NOSC's discontinuation
>> of our insurance,  in July/August of this year, and mid-October, when she
>> finally decided to let us all know, albeit with some prodding from concerned
>> and 
>> vocal community gardeners, is extremely troubling.
>> 
>> Again, this observation is by me, as an individual community gardener.
>> 
>> NYC's community gardeners are  out there, keeping our community gardens
>> clean, safe and welcoming, shovelling snow, hauling garbage, running events,
>> doing 
>> alot of stuff that makes our gardens and Green Thumb look good.
>> 
>> The very least I would like, as an individual gardner would like is for the
>> Green Thumb, the community gardening organization that I'm involved with to,
>> pretty please, disseminate   information on a key issue like insurance to its
>> gardeners, in a timely matter.
>> 
>> I don't like hearing about an adult matter like public space liability
>> insurance the way teenagers used to learn about sex - via the grapevine.
>> 
>> To not have received timely information on our community garden liability
>> insurance seems, on the face of it, to be awfully negligent on the part of
>> Greenthumb.   Of course, I'm speaking as an individual here. Others may be
>> less 
>> concerned....
>> 
>> As an individual, I like making Green Thumb look good - they gave me a plaque
>> and all, (see,  http://www.clintoncommunitygarden.org ) and I am a longtime
>> supporter of NYC Parks Gardens because I believe that under Parks our gardens
>> will always be accessible to the communities we serve - not private garden
>> clubs functioning under the community garden label.
>> 
>> However,  timely communication on key safety information, like liability
>> insurance coverage, is essential.
>> 
>> As an individual, I got more timely events information from Lily's Bar, in
>> Red Hook, Brooklyn, ( an establishment that Ms. Stone has or had an ownership
>> interest ) than I do, or the Green Thumb  garden that I'm associated with
>> got,
>> on its liability insurance.
>> 
>> A matter of priorities, methinks.
>> 
>> Again, speaking as an individual gardener, it seems that  community gardening
>> organizations, like Gateway Greening in St, Louis,  or Seattle's P-Patch,
>> have managed to do a better job, especially in organizing and keeping
>> gardeners 
>> informed of issues essential to them, than we have managed to do here in NYC.
>> And Gateway Greening and Seattle P-Patch  Publications manage to reach me,
>> via
>> snail mail, faster and in a more timely fashion than those from Green Thumb.
>> 
>> I know that we involved in community gardening in NYC can do better - and
>> perhaps in the future, will.
>> I know that Ms. Stone and NYC Parks Green Thumb  has worked very hard for
>> NYC's community gardens and gardeners - this gardener, again, speaking as an
>> individual,  just  believes that this city's gardeners deserve a bit more
>> transparency in governance and communication, from a community gardening
>> organization 
>> funded by our federal tax dollars, via federal block grants, please.
>> 
>> Happy Thursday,
>> Adam Honigman, 
>> speaking as an individual,
>> Volunteer, Clinton Community Garden
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- __--__-- 
>> 
>> ______________________________________________________
>> The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's
>> services to community gardeners. To learn more about the ACGA and to find out
>> how to join, please go to http://www.communitygarden.org
>> 
>> To post an e-mail to the list:  community_garden@mallorn.com
>> 
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription:
>> https://secure.mallorn.com/mailman/listinfo/community_garden
>> 
>> 
>> End of community_garden Digest
> 
> 
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> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 3
> From: Grow19@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:50:31 EDT
> To: community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] clarifying location in messages
> 
> i couldn't agree more.  if messages are location specific it should be  in
> the subject line, ie cleanup in sacramento, etc.  and always include the
> location in the text of a message, so people can get the context of a
> discussion.  
> thank you!!!!
> 
> judy tiger, washington dc
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 09:18:33 -0400
> From: "Farber, Chris" <cfarber@paconserve.org>
> To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: [cg] One approach to fencing
> 
> Elizabeth,
> My friends are part of a community garden in Madison, WI where the gardeners
> decided to put up a fence and plant blueberry and raspberry plants along the
> outside base of the fence.  This is a way to make the fence a living part of
> the garden and also offer a small (but delicious) part of the harvest to the
> neighbors who don't participate in the garden.
> 
> Chris Farber
> Volunteer Coordinator, Community Conservation
> Western Pennsylvania Conservancy
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:57:38 -0400
> From: stoneedie@aol.com
> To: Adam36055@aol.com, williamhohauser@earthlink.net, jjackson@nyrp.org,
> tjbrandt@treebranch.com, susan@greenthumbnyc.org,
> stoneedieedie@parks.nyc.gov, plantlot@rcn.com, Plantlot@aol.com,
> pgovernale@ny4p.org, nymagnolia@mindspring.com,
> nseverance@audubon.org, nicole@greenthumbnyc.edu,
> manhattanbotanical.garden@verizon.net, m_leger@earthlink.net,
> kchura@nyhs.org, JonC@LaPlacaCohen.com, joncrow@earthlink.net,
> Joanne.Morse@tpl.org, gwenne.hayes-stewart@mobot.org,
> susan.fields@parks.nyc.gov, ellenkirby@bbg.org, edie.stone@parks.com,
> bfeldt@verizon.net, commissioner@parks.nyc.gov,
> cybergardens@treebranch.com, community_garden@mallorn.com
> Subject: [cg] Re: Edie Stone, Director of NYC Greenthumb  Speaks....Finally.
> 
> I would like to state for the record that I have no ownership interest
> in Lily's bar, as stated by Mr. Honigman.  I also do not send out email
> updates about this or anything else on a regular basis.  I am as
> concerned as you all must be by the delay in information sharing that
> has taken place around the issue of insurance, but it has taken some
> time for the City to negotiate any sort of possible solution that works
> for gardeners.  The work is being done at the level of the
> Comptroller's office and the City Legal Department so GreenThumb has
> only been able to gently prod but cannot control the timetable of the
> resolution of this issue.  It is more important for me to provide
> accurate information than to respond quickly.  If GreenThumb had sent
> out a mass mailing stating that the insurance policy was no longer in
> effect with no information as to the meaning and potential liabilities
> caused by the situation I think it would have been more unsettling and
> uninformative than for the gardeners to hear about the sitution from
> NOSC, the insurance provider.  Nevertheless, I appologize for the
> confusion and hope that a clear, informative mailing can be sent out
> soon.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam36055
> To: StoneEdie; williamhohauser@earthlink.net; jjackson@nyrp.org;
> tjbrandt@treebranch.com; susan@greenthumbnyc.org;
> stoneedieedie@parks.nyc.gov; plantlot@rcn.com; Plantlot;
> pgovernale@ny4p.org; nymagnolia@mindspring.com;
> nseverance@audubon.org.; nicole@greenthumbnyc.edu;
> manhattanbotanical.garden@verizon.net; m_leger@earthlink.net;
> kchura@nyhs.org; JonC@LaPlacaCohen.com; joncrow@earthlink.net;
> Joanne.Morse@tpl.org; gwenne.hayes-stewart@mobot.org;
> susan.fields@parks.nyc.gov; ellenkirby@bbg.org; edie.stone@parks.com;
> bfeldt@verizon.net; commissioner@parks.nyc.gov;
> cybergardens@treebranch.com; community_garden@mallorn.com
> Sent: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:36:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> Subject: Edie Stone, Director of NYC Greenthumb  Speaks....Finally.
> 
> This is Adam Honigman speaking as an individual community gardener.
> 
> I must say that I am delighted that the NYC Community Gardening
> fraternity has finally been informed by Ms. Stone, Director of Green
> Thumb, about our new insurance status.
> 
> However, the period between when Ms. Stone knew about NOSC's
> discontinuation of our insurance, in July/August of this year, and
> mid-October, when she finally decided to let us all know, albeit with
> some prodding from concerned and vocal community gardeners, is
> extremely troubling.
> 
> Again, this observation is by me, as an individual community gardener.
> 
> NYC's community gardeners are out there, keeping our community gardens
> clean, safe and welcoming, shovelling snow, hauling garbage, running
> events, doing alot of stuff that makes our gardens and Green Thumb look
> good.
> 
> The very least I would like, as an individual gardner would like is
> for the Green Thumb, the community gardening organization that I'm
> involved with to, pretty please, disseminate information on a key issue
> like insurance to its gardeners, in a timely matter.
> 
> I don't like hearing about an adult matter like public space liability
> insurance the way teenagers used to learn about sex - via the
> grapevine.
> 
> To not have received timely information on our community garden
> liability insurance seems, on the face of it, to be awfully negligent
> on the part of Greenthumb. Of course, I'm speaking as an individual
> here. Others may be less concerned....
> 
> As an individual, I like making Green Thumb look good - they gave me a
> plaque and all, (see, http://www.clintoncommunitygarden.org ) and I am
> a longtime supporter of NYC Parks Gardens because I believe that under
> Parks our gardens will always be accessible to the communities we serve
> - not private garden clubs functioning under the community garden
> label.
> 
> However, timely communication on key safety information, like
> liability insurance coverage, is essential.
> 
> As an individual, I got more timely events information from Lily's
> Bar, in Red Hook, Brooklyn, ( an establishment that Ms. Stone has or
> had an ownership interest ) than I do, or the Green Thumb garden that
> I'm associated with got, on its liability insurance.
> 
> A matter of priorities, methinks.
> 
> Again, speaking as an individual gardener, it seems that community
> gardening organizations, like Gateway Greening in St, Louis, or
> Seattle's P-Patch, have managed to do a better job, especially in
> organizing and keeping gardeners informed of issues essential to them,
> than we have managed to do here in NYC. And Gateway Greening and
> Seattle P-Patch Publications manage to reach me, via snail mail, faster
> and in a more timely fashion than those from Green Thumb.
> 
> I know that we involved in community gardening in NYC can do better -
> and perhaps in the future, will.
> I know that Ms. Stone and NYC Parks Green Thumb has worked very hard
> for NYC's community gardens and gardeners - this gardener, again,
> speaking as an individual, just believes that this city's gardeners
> deserve a bit more transparency in governance and communication, from a
> community gardening organization funded by our federal tax dollars, via
> federal block grants, please.
> 
> Happy Thursday,
> Adam Honigman,
> speaking as an individual,
> Volunteer, Clinton Community Garden
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 6
> From: Cary Oshins <caryoshins@lehighcounty.org>
> To: ACGA listserve <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: RE: [cg] Fencing
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:04:38 -0400
> 
> Neither of the two gardens (both around 10 plots) that I manage have
> fencing, and theft is the #1 problem.  They are both situated on public
> parks, and neither has an effective association.  My question to those with
> fences: Are they locked? Does every plot-holder get a key?  Are there
> limited access hours?  I'd be interested to hear how these and related
> details are worked out.
> Cary
> Lehigh County, PA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Call [mailto:jimcall@casagarden.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:18 PM
> To: eliz
> Cc: ACGA listserve
> Subject: RE: [cg] Fencing
> 
> 
> Elizabeth,
> If you cruise ACGA links page (http://www.communitygarden.org/links.php)
> viewing various CG(s), you will notice most have some type of security
> fence.  At our old location in a high tech research park, we did not have a
> fence.  There was very little pedestrian traffic except for an occasional
> runner.  We had virtually no vandalism and only a couple of times I caught
> someone illegally harvesting.
> 
> When the city moved our garden to an urban environment, I insisted on having
> a 6' high fence to surround it.  Presently, we keep the gates unlocked and
> we haven't had a problem.  One shed is unlocked and the tool shed's doors
> are completely off.  Who would want to steal some hoes, shovels, and other
> gardening tools... especially when it means they would have to do some
> physical work to use them?
> 
> I wouldn't worry about school kids stealing vegetables and they will not be
> interested in gardening materials as well.  Of course, if you put up
> scarecrows, that may intice their interest to vandalize them.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: community_garden-admin@mallorn.com
> [mailto:community_garden-admin@mallorn.com]On Behalf Of eliz
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 8:06 PM
> Cc: ACGA listserve
> Subject: [cg] Fencing
> 
> 
> Are there any community gardens who have not had to put up a fence for
> security?  We are building a community garden behind a church in our
> predominantly low-income neighborhood. We were hoping to avoid putting
> up a fence as many people use the site as a short-cut to school, library
> and businesses. With very little out there so far, we have already
> experienced some vandalism.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Elizabeth
> Austin, Texas
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:56:28 -0400
> From: "Kirby, Ellen" <ellenkirby@bbg.org>
> To: <community_garden@mallorn.com>
> Subject: [cg] Compost Giveback in Brooklyn NY USA this weekend
> 
> For those of you in NYC specifically in Brooklyn, NYC you may be
> interested in attachment about our upcoming free compost giveback
> (available to all NYC residents).  For those of you in other places you
> might be interested in what we are doing here.
> 
> There is unlimited compost including the option to bring trucks and the
> Dept. of Sanitation will load them up; you can come back as many times
> as you wish.  You must have a tarp to cover.
> 
> See attached for details.
> 
> Ellen Kirby, Director
> Brooklyn GreenBridge
> Community Horticulture Program
> Brooklyn Botanic Garden
> Phone: 718.623-7251
> Fax: 718.857-2430
> Address:  1000 Washington Avenue
> Brooklyn, NY 11225
> Web Site: www.BBG.org
> 
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a
> name of General info.doc]
> 
> 
> 
> 
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