Re: Re: temperatures and hardiness
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- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: temperatures and hardiness
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- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:52:10 -0500
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Which is why I always try to buy plants from nurseries here in the midwest...although there are times when the only places I can find what I want is ForestFarm or Plant Delights!
Cathy
On Monday, April 12, 2004, at 06:15 PM, Marge Talt wrote:
Well, the USDA hardiness zones are just the tip of the iceberg. They only deal with average low temperatures for given locations, not with all the other factors that determine a plants cold hardiness. It's somewhere to start, but *only* a start. More to the point is where does the species plant originate? What is its provenance? If you know that, you can do a bit of research about the climate of that area and compare it to yours. This is, still somewhat of a generalization because elevation makes a real difference; some plants from places you might think tropical just looking at a world map, come from very high elevations and are quite cold hardy - they might not be able to take hot, humid summer nights, but they survive cold winters. Whether a plant comes from a winter dry or winter wet climate also makes a big difference - same with summer. And, we must not forget our own garden micro-climates.
Some plants are quite hardy in hot summer climates that are not in cooler summer climates (the UK, for instance) because they need a good long hot period to ripen. Many plants you read about in English garden books say they need a warm wall to survive; given that where I am or where Pam is, they'd fry. Many of our ornamental grasses are considered borderline hardy in the UK because it just doesn't get hot enough in summer for them....Miscanthus is one - bone hardy for me and in much of the US; hardly ever blooms in the UK.
Some plants are quite hardy if given sufficient time to adjust to cold weather but will die fast when hot weather turns cold overnight. Conversely, some plants are actually hardy, but tend to start growing at the first sign of warm weather in spring and get zapped by roller coaster spring frosts...think Hydrangea mac. This has to do with how a plant develops its winter anti-freeze; some do it according to temperature and some according to day length; think some even combine these.
Some plants are native and hardy throughout much of the US, but it makes a difference where they originated. For instance, Cornus florida (dogwood) born and bred in the south will not be hardy in the north - even from seed. So a "zone" designation for this plant, while interesting, does not tell you whether the plant in your hand (or your local nursery) is going to live through your winters.
That said, you will never know whether you can grow a plant until you've tried and killed it at least 3 times, even one supposedly rated hardy where you are.
</dismount zone soapbox>
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland mtalt@hort.net Editor: Gardening in Shade
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