Re: DE

Here is some info and sites:
 
Pools:
Also called DE - A white poder composed of fossilized skeletons of
one-celled organisms called diatoms. The skeletons are porous and have
microscopic spaces. The powder is added through the skimmer with the
pump on and deposits itself on a grid. The powder then becomes the
filter medium.

www.poolspa.com/glossary.html
 
Pets/Insects:
the ground shells of fossilized single-celled diatoms, a shelled algae.
Their remains drifted down to ancient sea floor, and grinding them
produces sharp edges which shred the outer, protective cuticle on
insects. Top.....

www.epa.gov/grtlakes/seahome/housewaste/src/glossary1.htm
 
Gardening:
A fully inert, non-volatile substance sometimes recommended as an
alternative to traditional chemical treatments for controlling a number
of insects and other pests, including Soil Mealy Bugs. Diatomaceous
Earth (DE) is made from the skeletal remains of diatoms, a microscopic
form of algae. When processed into DE, these skeletal remains form
razor-sharp particles which cut into the soft bodies of small insects.
While controlling insects, DE does not harm African Violets.

www.optimara.com/optimaraglossary/d.html

Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center <4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
As Pam said, I suppose it would have chemicals. I recalled something about
not getting the DE for pools. I think DE is fossil material of some sort.
Somebody google it......geez I hate not being able to do that!

Kittty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Theresa" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] DE


> DE used to be used in pool filters for something- not sure if they do
> that anymore or not. Not sure how one would "grade" DE- isn't it some
> kind of crunched up mineral?
>
> Theresa
>
> Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center wrote:
>
> >Well, I thought DE was also used for something concerning swimming pools,
> >which I am sure OK has. Maybe it's a different grade.
> >
> >Kitty
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Jesse Bell" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 7:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: [CHAT] DE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well one would THINK that it would be easy to find at a feed store or
> >>gardening center. But it's OKLAHOMA...and when I asked them (went to ag
> >>centers, feed stores, gardening centers) they looked at me and said,
> >>"HUH?" I explained to them what it was and they tried to sell me Seven
> >>Dust at one place, and some other stuff for cattle that had insecticide
> >>in it. So, I just looked online. Without trashing the state I live in
> >>(and I was born here and my parents and grandparents were born here),
> >>Oklahoma is not exactly up on things. No recycle programs where I
> >>live..maybe in OKC but not here, organic is a foreign concept to most
> >>people here, I still see hairstyles from the 70's, fashion is behind and
> >>so is the music. I can say that honestly because I have also lived in
> >>Atlanta, Dallas, Kansas City and New Orleans....there are days where I
> >>wondered what in the HELL I was thinking by moving back here. For true.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> >>
> >>
> ><4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Jesse,
> >>Nitron has lots of good products. I would think though that one could
get
> >>DE locally - say at a feed store or ag co-op.
> >>Kitty
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Jesse Bell"
> >>To:
> >>Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:37 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk NOW Fleas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Go to www.nitron.com and when it opens click on the "online store".
Then
> >>>choose the "Home and Pet" section and scroll down to D.E. It's the best
> >>>price I have found so far.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >>>Okay, where do you get it? I really need something for the 17 outside
> >>>
> >>>
> >>cats,
> >>
> >>
> >>>and I can't afford Frontline Topspot for the inside ones, either.
> >>>zem
> >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>From: "Jesse Bell"
> >>>To:
> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:42 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>O.K. ya'll...after doing my "due diligence" on natural flea control
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >(and
> >
> >
> >>>>also, because of the goats who get lice..not the kind that get on
> >>>>people...but bothersome to them) I researched "food grade"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >diatomaceaus
> >
> >
> >>>>earth and then searched for a reasonably priced one...and found it. I
> >>>>tried it on the dogs and cats first because the fleas are HORRIBLE
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >here.
> >
> >
> >>>>Works like a charm. Tried it on the goats. Works like a charm. You
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >just
> >
> >
> >>>>rub it in their coats and walk away. The fleas and other pests are
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >gone
> >
> >
> >>>>within a couple of days and it stays that way as long as they have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >some
> >
> >
> >>>>of the powder on them. I will never be without it again. I ordered
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >four
> >
> >
> >>>>5 lb. bags of it. Should last me awhile..and it only cost me $25.31.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >>>>I wish I could say that, but living the the flea capital of the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >world...
> >
> >
> >>>>zem
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>From: "Johnson Cyndi D Civ AFFTC/ITSR"
> >>>>To:
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:37 PM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>A plus (there's at least one!) about living where I do is that there
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >are
> >
> >
> >>>>>no
> >>>>>fleas. Too dry, I guess; haven't had to worry about fleas on the dogs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >&
> >
> >
> >>>>>cats
> >>>>>for 20 years now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cyndi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >>>>>Behalf
> >>>>>Of Kitty
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 9:12 PM
> >>>>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mine are $88 yr per cat plus the $30 each flea shot. but my guys get
> >>>>>everything available except heartworm. One concern I have is...when
> >>>>>Slugger
> >>>>>showed up last year and caused so many fights, I had no intention of
> >>>>>taking
> >>>>>him in, I just wanted him neutered to reduce his agression. Then he
> >>>>>wouldn't leave. (on my lap now) So he ended up getting everything.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >The
> >
> >
> >>>>>initial everything is a lot more than $88. As I said, no one will do
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>just
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>the parts I ask. We'll see. Kitty neIN, Z5
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>>From: "A A HODGES"
> >>>>>To:
> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:06 PM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Can you check and see if any "events" are offering discounted shots?
> >>>>>>They do that around here periodically. Of course getting him there
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >may
> >
> >
> >>>>>>be an issue if he's skittish about cars or crowds. We are having a
> >>>>>>clinic as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>they
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>call it this weekend. It's the Spring Pet Fling and they're
> >>>>>>microchipping for $10 and rabies for $5. Usually they offer a big
> >>>>>>discount on all the other necessaries as well. I myself pay $80 a
> >>>>>>dog.....for their "5,000 mile" checkup each year. Ouch.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Andrea H
> >>>>>>Beaufort, SC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>>>>From: Kitty
> >>>>>>>To:
> >>>>>>>Date: 4/12/2005 10:12:55 PM
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Well, Woody should be ok around here. If I find some extra money
> >>>>>>>after
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>my
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>sale I may see about at least getting him some flea protection.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >I'd
> >
> >
> >>>>>like
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>get him neutered, but it's not as easy as it used to be. My vet
> >>>>>>>only neuters if he can do all the tests on him and it ends up
> >>>>>>>costing about
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>$200.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The local clinic requires you to own it which means going through
> >>>>>>>all
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>shots and registering him with the city. But 6mo flea protection
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >is
> >
> >
> >>>>>$30.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Kitty
> >>>>>>>neIN, Z5
> >>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>From: "Jesse Bell"
> >>>>>>>To:
> >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:22 PM
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Well said, Zem. I agree. When it has depended on people it's
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >whole
> >
> >
> >>>>>life,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>or most of it's life they don't stand a chance. It's just cruel.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Jess
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >>>>>>>>People who would turn out a pet when its person has died should
> >>>>>>>>meet a horrible end. zem
> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>>>>>From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> >>>>>>>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> >>>>>>>>To:
> >>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:40 PM
> >>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Got you trained, doesn't she?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Woody is a pale-orange, longish-haired tabby the spends the
> >>>>>>>>>winter
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>my
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Florida room. His owner died and her son turned him out. The
> >>>>>>>>>poor
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>guy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>has
> >>>>>>>>>been fending for himself for the past few years, but I believe
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>someone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>besides me has been helping him out. He's gone through so many
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>fights
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>over the years (not fixed) that he has a huge amount of scar
> >>>>>>>>>tissue
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>around
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>his jaws - along with the fur it triples the size of his face.
> >>>>>>>>>So
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>when
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>he
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>drinks from the birdbath or his bowl, the whole lower portion
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>his
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>face
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>gets darkly wet. The first time I saw him like that I thought
> >>>>>>>>>he'd
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>been
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>hurt. - nope, just wet.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Kitty
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>From: "james singer"
> >>>>>>>>>To: "Chat"
> >>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:51 PM
> >>>>>>>>>Subject: [CHAT] Beans talk
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Sometimes you just gotta listen to the animals, you know? I
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >was
> >
> >
> >>>>>>outside
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>planting a recently rediscovered grumichama and Beans came
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >out
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>and started talking to me. It seemed like it was important,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >so
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>I made a move toward the house and she trotted ahead, like
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >she
> >
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>expected me
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>follow. I didn't want to disappoint her, so I did follow. She
> >>>>>>>>>>beat
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>inside by 20 seconds or so, but when I got into the kitchen,
> >>>>>>>>>>there
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>she
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>was sitting beside her empty water bowl. And talking...
> >>>>>>>>>>actually
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>giving
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>me what for.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Island Jim
> >>>>>>>>>>Southwest Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>27.0 N, 82.4 W
> >>>>>>>>>>Hardiness Zone 10
> >>>>>>>>>>Heat Zone 10
> >>>>>>>>>>Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> >>>>>>>>>>Maximum 100 F [38 C]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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