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Re: Ah, spring...

I guess you need to send those tomato plants north! Although it was nice
out earlier, it has gotten windy and cooling off. I got done with my
chores early today, so stopped in one of the local nurseries to see what
is growing. They are a season place- mostly just annuals. They normally
have awesome baskets cheap along with some unusual stuff if you get
there early.

It appears they just planted everything about a week or so ago. Small,
barely sprouting and nothing special in the way of annuals this year.
Even their baskets are a sorry mess of common plants. Not sure just what
happened there, but prices doubled too...

How disappointing!


----- Original Message ----

I'm withyou Daryl.  It's the plants that matter, not the pronunciation.  I 
recall my first plant sale...my front bed was planted with several huge 
Astilbes. A woman asked me 'What are those?", Flattered, I replied 
"AS-til-bees".  She said, "You mean uh-STIL-bees".  She really killed the 
mood.  If she knew, why'd she ask? Baiting me?
I am a stickler on getting the name down correctly when it is for 
publication as in our MG plant list or an article I might be writing.  But 
not for pronunciation.  I don't believe anyone realllllllly knows.

A few HUNDRED tomato plants?  Oh, my! That's a disaster.  The other plants 
will hold for rescheduling or another opportunity, but you really can't keep 
a lot of tomato plants for too long.  What will you do?

neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Ah, spring...

> Kitty,
> A couple of great folks have educated me on botanical Latin. With regard 
> to pronunciation, one says, emphasize the 3rd syllable from the end and 
> you'll get it right most of the time.  The other, (Allan Armitage) 
> concurs, and says that the only people who care are the Brits, and that 
> they think we get it all wrong anyhow. As he says, gardening is supposed 
> to be fun, not painful. I've heard him morph several pronunciations in the 
> 15 years that I've known him. If he changed his pronunciation along the 
> way, does that mean he was wrong at first and has seen the light? I think 
> not.
> I had the opportunity to swap plants with a woman yesterday. She had a 
> marvelous garden. Being self-taught, she mangled every plant name, and 
> even the word "deciduous". Did that make her any less a plantswoman? I 
> think not.
> Being self-taught, she had a number of plants that are extremely difficult 
> to grow here.  She'd planted them because she didn't know they were 
> supposed to be "hard".  Hers were thriving.
> She was able to point out subtle differences between cultivars - not just 
> growth habit, leaf  and flower size and shape, but hardiness, response to 
> micro-climates, etc, even if she didn't get their names "correct" 
> according to "the books".
> As long as I know an Acer is an Acer, and I can email my friends around 
> the world about my latest plant lust, I don't give a rip. And when I speak 
> to them in person, if sometimes we have to resort to pen and paper because 
> our "correct" botanical Latin makes no sense in their language, it's less 
> a concern than that if I write "alba" or "lutea" they know that I'm 
> referring to a color.
> Sorry about your snow. You'd think winter would be ready to give up by 
> now. We're anticipating strong storms, possible hail an twirlies.  I hope 
> the weather guys are wrong.
> Our MG plant sale was cancelled by the city ( which controls the 
> fairgrounds, where the giant yard sale/MG plant sale is held) because it 
> was supposed to storm all day. Of course, it hasn't started yet and I have 
> a few hundred tomato plants to dispose of. And dogwoods, Iris, Hosta, etc. 
> :-(
> d
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Ah, spring...
>> I'm so disgusted w this April.  It's snowing now.  Almost a white-out for 
>> a bit, now, just falling.  Not sticking much, but geez.  It's cold and I 
>> wanna work in the yard.  I dug and potted some shrubs last night after 
>> work, but I need to do more.  My sale is in 2 wks.
>> I ran over to our MG conference this afternoon for the speaker who was 
>> giving a talk on Botanical Latin.  She lost me right from the start when 
>> she touted Hortus Third as the best resource.  But I stuck in there, 
>> thinking the rest of the talk would be good, but 40 minutes into it, no, 
>> and I left. She's the kind of speaker that make people not want to deal w 
>> botanical Latin.  Boring, slow-speaking, dry, emphasis on - and a real 
>> stickler for - pronunciation.  In my opinion, pronunciation is a distant 
>> second to the value of the words, and she didn't get around to that much 
>> at all.  IMO, if you say AY-sir and someone else says AH-ker, so what? 
>> You both still know you're talking maples.  This is botanical Latin, not 
>> conversational Latin and they don't necessarily follow the same rules. 
>> There's lots of Greek, Russian, and what-have-you involved in plant 
>> names. A talk on this subject should strive to make it FUN or your 
>> audience will reptans toward the door.
>> Oh, maybe I'm just in a bad mood.
>> Kitty
>> neIN, Zone 5
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