Re: gainful employment/burnout

Well, I don't think Judy or I are interested in joining the army at this
stage of the game! ;+)

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] gainful employment/burnout


> When I joined the Army (during Vietnam), it was with the understanding
> that my salary was based on 24/7. There was no such thing as an 8 hour
> work day, there was no overtime, there was no "comp time". We did it
> because we were committed to a cause we considered greater than
> ourselves, and to our comrades.
> Cathy
> On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Kitty wrote:
>
> >> I fail to understand how
> >> paying 2 or 3 nurses overtime is cheaper than paying an extra
> >> assisitant.
> >
> > Most likely it's the benefits costs.
> >
> > Judy,
> > I do not think this is a fair thing to do to an employee, especially
> > under
> > stressful conditions.  Expecting someone to work an extra half hour
> > because
> > someone else is running late is not out of reason, but 2 to 3 more
> > hours
> > after a grueling 8 hour shift is nonsense.  Must you accept this or
> > are they
> > asking?  In either case, I might be inclined to say, "OK, but my lunch
> > hour
> > comes first."
> >
> > Yours is just a typical example of our "better economy".  They say it
> > is
> > getting better, but that's because companies are making more money.
> > But
> > they aren't necessarily employing more people - they are just making
> > current
> > employees work that much harder, and often for little or no extra pay.
> >  They
> > circumvent any extra cost they can at the expense of worker morale and
> > well-being, while the number of unemployed continue to peruse the want
> > ads.
> > Oh, but the headlines say unemployment is down?  Those numbers don't
> > include
> > those who no longer collect unemployment.  If they counted everyone
> > who is
> > looking for a job, the percentage would be much higher.
> >
> > How's that for soapbox.  No apologies here, but thanks for letting me
> > vent,
> > too.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judy L Browning" <judybrowning@lewiston.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 12:05 PM
> > Subject: [CHAT] gainful employment/burnout
> >
> >
> >> Well folks, in the last 3 days, my so called 8 hour shifts have
> >> stretched
> > to
> >> 9-11 hours with no time for a lunch break. 5 hours overtime, or about
> >> an
> >> extra day's pay for the 3 days.  Not sure it's worth it. They staff by
> >> algorithm at this hospital rather than by acuity. I fail to
> >> understand how
> >> paying 2 or 3 nurses overtime is cheaper than paying an extra
> >> assisitant.
> > I
> >> can afford to work only 6 days every 2 weeks, and can't afford to work
> > more,
> >> emotionally or physically. A lot of nurses choose to take other, less
> >> lucrative work because of the killer stress involved.
> >> Getting off my soap box, thanks for letting me vent.

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