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Re: purple hems

When it reaches the point where you have to be a taxonomist to know [begonias are another irritating example], I usually punt and label them something like "H. fulva cultivar." Philodendrons will also drive you nutso in a short period of time.

On Sunday, August 22, 2004, at 02:30 PM, Kitty wrote:

Speaking of daylilies,
A friend of mine is a hybridizer and has a 5 acre farm, mainly daylilies.
She's some sort of officer in a national daylily society (I mention all
this to indicate the woman know her hems). I was picking up some plants she
was donating to CES and the subject arose of labeling plants for our MG
sales. She insisted that the roadside orange-ish daylilies that grow in the
midwest are not Hemerocallis fulva. She's not very exact with botanical
Latin and at first said they are H. europa, then indicated she meant H.
fulva f. europa. I later looked it up and I think she means H fulva
'Europa'. Her point was that what I have always called Tawny Daylily and as
a child referred to as Tiger Lilies (not to be confused with Lilium
lancifolium) and grows in ditches, along roadsides, fencelines, etc is a
sterile plant, which she indicates is 'Europa'. She says the real H. fulva,
the species is not sterile and not such a rampant grower.

So I looked on the internet to see if I could find the difference in
descriptions or pictures. This just made matters worse. One concise
description indicated that Europa differs by have a yellow color at the base
of the tepals. Sure enough, mine do. So then I looked for and found pics
on believable sites that show the species with that same trait. Then I also
found so many pics of H. fulva, the species, that all looked quite different
from one another.

So my head is swimming. Will the REAL Hemerocallis fulva please stand up?
However, even if ours are 'Europa', that's still a H.fulva cultivar, so
marking it H. fulva isn't really *wrong*, is it? - just not quite complete.
Any thoughts on this?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 1:00 PM
Subject: [CHAT] purple hems

I finally got out to check my purple daylilies, Crown Royal, but there
isn't enough of anything to dig since I just did it a year ago. Next time
around I'll try to remember to mention it here before I sell/give it all
away. Sorry.


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