Re: soggy tropicals

What is kitchen mulch?

Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] soggy tropicals


> One method I have used for working with clay is to bury kitchen mulch in
> the place I want to make into a new bed.  I do this for months and cover
> the gradually developing bed with mulch to keep down weeds.  The bed soon
> has earthworms and better soil.  The Trail Gardens at Knoxville UT has
> problems with clay in spots.  On other method they use is to develop
raised
> beds of good soil.  With raised beds, the plants have good drainage and
can
> be better seen.  If I want a good deep bed, I start with the mulch method
> and add top soil on top to have a raised area.
>
> Bonnie ETN Zone 7
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 8/18/2005 1:39:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] soggy tropicals
> >
> > Hi Cathy
> >
> > When I first landscaped my yard I took a suggestion from Marge and dug a
> > hole in my clay and filled it with water.  The water stayed in the hole
> for
> > three days before it finally was absorbed.  I gave in and bought 50
yards
> of
> > top soil and covered the clay two feet deep.  Bananas, like many
> tropicals,
> > like plenty of water but they want it to drain out and not sit in
soaking
> > soil.
> >
> > David
> > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Starting a nursery/David!
> >
> >
> > > Drainage may be a good part of the problem, as we have heavy clay
> > > here. All were on a slope, though, and I guess I thought that
> > > slope=drainage. The one that survived was in the most protected spot,
> > > next to the koi pond, but it was the most abused, losing the growing
> > > plant that I received (something broke it off at soil level) and
> > > having to produce a new keiki that first year. Go figure.
> > >
> > > Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> > >
> > > On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:13 AM, David Franzman wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Cathy
> > >>
> > >> That's odd because they are 20' tall here.  I have three groves of
> > >> them.  I can understand them freezing but if they survived the
> > >> winter I don't know why they wouldn't grow.  Does your soil drain
> > >> well?
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter"
> > >> <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 7:23 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Starting a nursery/David!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Tried them here. Of three, one made it through the winter (with
> > >>> protection). The sprout from that plant has not gotten taller than
> > >>> 3", thought it appears healthy. Thind I will dig it up, put it in a
> > >>> pot, and bring it in for the winter.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 16, 2005, at 8:56 PM, David Franzman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey Holli, I told you on the phone about Musa basjoo.  Hardy to 10
> > >>>> or 20 below freezing.  There seems to be a difference of opinion on
> > >>>> that.  The fruit is not edible and the bananas are about the size
> > >>>> of my ring finger. But the pod and subsequent hanging fruit is very
> > >>>> cool.  Ok, that's just a start.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Did you get those hibs repotted?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> David
> > >>>> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hollikft@aol.com>
> > >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:11 PM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Starting a nursery/David!
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
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