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RE: Re: frogs

Wallace and Gromit, my favorites!
Ah well if I had a badger no doubt it would be interested in my chickens
right after it took care of the rabbits. I'd love to see one in the wild
though. At the building I used to work in, one summer the security
guards used to see one wandering about the area at night; we had lots of
open space and a bit of lawn outside. They said it was scary. I always
missed the good stuff. I never saw the bobcat that pounced on a rabbit
near the lunch tables, the rattlesnake that came into the building, or
the owl ditto. Always in the wrong place sigh. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On
Behalf Of james singer
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:12 AM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: frogs

Sounds like you need to call Wallace and Gromit, Cyndi. Or maybe you
should get a badger of your own.

I had a confrontation once with a Mexican badger in Marin county. 
Wonderful critters [also muy mas dangerous if threatened]. I think of
them as size 10 animals in size 20 suits--their hide sort of ripples
when they walk.

On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:

> OMG you are FEEDING the rabbits?
> They have lost their cuteness factor for me this year after the 
> depredations in my garden. I tend to be a live and let live gardener, 
> if they don't destroy too much stuff I don't care if they live here. 
> But this year after two wet springs their populations have exploded 
> and they're eating everything in sight. I'm scurrying about blocking 
> holes under the fences and, well, I won't tell you what husband is 
> doing. The squirrels too are bad and they are much more destructive. 
> They are digging enormous burrows underneath our hay shed - bad enough

> it might tilt off the foundation blocks.
> Here at work we have some lawns around buildings and quite a lot of 
> xeriscaping. The rabbits are here in herds. I walked to a meeting 
> about
> 1/4 mile from here and on my way back, about 4 in the afternoon, I 
> started counting rabbits on the lawns. 38 rabbits, 6 squirrels, and 4 
> mojave ground squirrels. They don't even run when they see you.
> And even if I don't want them at my house, worst of all is the carnage

> on the road. I can't drive anywhere without seeing squashed critters.
> One winces at the rabbits but I've really cringed seeing at seeing our

> rarest wild creature, a badger.
> Cyndi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-gardenchat@hort.net] On 
> Behalf Of Jesse Bell
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:59 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: frogs
> Yeh, I was watering my back porch gardens Wednesday night, and 
> something large and brown jumped up from under the foilage and landed 
> on the rock.
> I thought it was a big brown toad or something. It was almost dark so 
> I couldn't see very well. On closer inspection, I saw that it had 
> ears...and fur. It was a baby cotten tail rabbit. It was old enough to

> eat on its own and I saw no other bunnies in the area. That is where 
> my wild bird feeder is so my guess is that it was feeding there, but 
> in the heat of the day (107) it took cover under my potatoe vines to 
> stay cool.
> I put it in a safe place with some alfalfa pellets and water and let 
> it be. It was so cute though. And I have frog that lives in my garden 
> pond.
> It's a tiny (tub) built into the ground with a little fountain. I went

> to pull weeds from around the pond, and he was just floating on top, 
> looking at me. I love frogs.
> TeichFlora@aol.com wrote:
>   How cool Theresa. I just love frogs.
> It really isn't very surprising to have frogs in flower pots, 
> especially if one gardens pretty much organically. There are a number 
> of native frogs to California. Pesticides use and such has diminished 
> the numbers of frogs greatly. It's a misconception by many that frogs 
> have to actually live in water at all times....although there are a 
> few that are pretty much aquatic, many only use water as a source for 
> breeding and such, but prefer moist areas. The smaller the frog, the 
> less amount of water needed to breed and survive.
> People have a tendency to see more amphibians in their landscapes if 
> they have lush foliage cover, moist conditions...especially if there 
> is a drought elsewhere the frogs will go to wherever they can find 
> moisture, coverage and food.
> Most frogs/toads eat insects and are a definite benefit to any garden.

> I
> bet in the evening or after a rain, you can hear the different calls 
> of the frogs.
> There are a lot of websites to help you ID the frog according to pics 
> and sounds they make.
> Do you have a pond?? That definitely will attract the larger frogs and

> toads. Here the Gulf Coast Toad is everywhere, and will lay eggs in 
> puddles on the street after a rain. When we moved in (not much 
> landscaping at all) I saw a number of tiny cricket or chirping frogs.
> They made a cute peeping noise in the evenings. We are fortunate not 
> to have attracted any bullfrogs though....which are the largest, and 
> will eat just about anything it can fit in it's mouth...including 
> other frogs, birds, etc. Definitely not a good introduction.
> Noreen
> zone 9
> Texas Gulf Coast
> In a message dated 8/10/2006 11:02:17 PM Central Standard Time, 
> gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:
> About a week ago I was on the back porch and checking out my potted 
> plants when I realized a pair of eyes were staring back at me! In the 
> catch tray attached to a hanging pot was a little flog, hanging over 
> the
> edge checking me out. Since the pot was hanging, we were about 
> eye-to-eye. And yes, I did startle! So, I couldn't figure out how the 
> frog got in there, much less how it was surviving. So I took the pot 
> down and put is on the ground so that the poor thing could hop out if 
> it
> wanted and go find some food. Which, the frog had disappeared by a 
> couple hours later. So, I hung the pot back up and didn't see the frog
> anymore- until yesterday. The frog was back in the catch tray AND in 
> the pot hanging next to it, there was another little frog. I thought, 
> how cool, I guess they are happy there, so just let them be. I have 
> one other hanging pot out back, but it doesn't get as much water, so 
> there was none in the catch tray. So, I filled up the watering can and

> went to fill the catch tray in hopes of attracking another frog there.

> Well, as I was filling up the tray, yet ANOTHER little frog popped his

> head up! So, I stopped filling the tray, since it was already 
> occupied! I have no clue how the frogs get in or out of the pots- I'd 
> love to see this in action. I realize they have little suction cup 
> feet, but still- climbing up or down the plastic hangers can't be all 
> that easy. What do you think they eat??
> Happy to have some frogs in residence-
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