RE: Re: frogs
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- Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: frogs
- From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" w*@ameritech.net
- Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:04:12 -0400
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Since they used to be sold as pets in some areas, it's possible, Jim. DH
used to have a neighbor that had one as a pet. He loved that cat! Did it
have a tail? Isn't there a Florida Panther, too? Did you get any photos?
Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of james singer
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:31 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: frogs
Never thought of that, Jesse. Could have been [are there lynx in Florida?].
On Aug 11, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Jesse Bell wrote:
> Was it a linx?
>
> james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote: Where I last worked, we
> had a large cat that we sometimes saw out our windows. It looked like
> a cross between a bobcat and a Florida panther.
> It was built like a panther, only smaller and with the coloration and
> bobbed tail of a bobcat--kind of awkward looking, actually.
>
> On Aug 11, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:
>
>> Wallace and Gromit, my favorites!
>> Ah well if I had a badger no doubt it would be interested in my
>> chickens right after it took care of the rabbits. I'd love to see one
>> in the wild though. At the building I used to work in, one summer the
>> security guards used to see one wandering about the area at night; we
>> had lots of open space and a bit of lawn outside. They said it was
>> scary. I always missed the good stuff. I never saw the bobcat that
>> pounced on a rabbit near the lunch tables, the rattlesnake that came
>> into the building, or the owl ditto. Always in the wrong place sigh.
>>
>> Cyndi
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of james singer
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:12 AM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: frogs
>>
>> Sounds like you need to call Wallace and Gromit, Cyndi. Or maybe you
>> should get a badger of your own.
>>
>> I had a confrontation once with a Mexican badger in Marin county.
>> Wonderful critters [also muy mas dangerous if threatened]. I think of
>> them as size 10 animals in size 20 suits--their hide sort of ripples
>> when they walk.
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:
>>
>>> OMG you are FEEDING the rabbits?
>>> They have lost their cuteness factor for me this year after the
>>> depredations in my garden. I tend to be a live and let live
>>> gardener, if they don't destroy too much stuff I don't care if they live
here.
>>> But this year after two wet springs their populations have exploded
>>> and they're eating everything in sight. I'm scurrying about blocking
>>> holes under the fences and, well, I won't tell you what husband is
>>> doing. The squirrels too are bad and they are much more destructive.
>>> They are digging enormous burrows underneath our hay shed - bad
>>> enough
>>
>>> it might tilt off the foundation blocks.
>>> Here at work we have some lawns around buildings and quite a lot of
>>> xeriscaping. The rabbits are here in herds. I walked to a meeting
>>> about
>>> 1/4 mile from here and on my way back, about 4 in the afternoon, I
>>> started counting rabbits on the lawns. 38 rabbits, 6 squirrels, and
>>> 4 mojave ground squirrels. They don't even run when they see you.
>>> And even if I don't want them at my house, worst of all is the
>>> carnage
>>
>>> on the road. I can't drive anywhere without seeing squashed critters.
>>> One winces at the rabbits but I've really cringed seeing at seeing
>>> our
>>
>>> rarest wild creature, a badger.
>>>
>>> Cyndi
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Jesse Bell
>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:59 AM
>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: frogs
>>>
>>> Yeh, I was watering my back porch gardens Wednesday night, and
>>> something large and brown jumped up from under the foilage and
>>> landed on the rock.
>>> I thought it was a big brown toad or something. It was almost dark
>>> so I couldn't see very well. On closer inspection, I saw that it had
>>> ears...and fur. It was a baby cotten tail rabbit. It was old enough
>>> to
>>
>>> eat on its own and I saw no other bunnies in the area. That is where
>>> my wild bird feeder is so my guess is that it was feeding there, but
>>> in the heat of the day (107) it took cover under my potatoe vines to
>>> stay cool.
>>> I put it in a safe place with some alfalfa pellets and water and let
>>> it be. It was so cute though. And I have frog that lives in my
>>> garden pond.
>>> It's a tiny (tub) built into the ground with a little fountain. I
>>> went
>>
>>> to pull weeds from around the pond, and he was just floating on top,
>>> looking at me. I love frogs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TeichFlora@aol.com wrote:
>>> How cool Theresa. I just love frogs.
>>> It really isn't very surprising to have frogs in flower pots,
>>> especially if one gardens pretty much organically. There are a
>>> number of native frogs to California. Pesticides use and such has
>>> diminished the numbers of frogs greatly. It's a misconception by
>>> many that frogs have to actually live in water at all
>>> times....although there are a few that are pretty much aquatic, many
>>> only use water as a source for breeding and such, but prefer moist
>>> areas. The smaller the frog, the less amount of water needed to breed
and survive.
>>> People have a tendency to see more amphibians in their landscapes if
>>> they have lush foliage cover, moist conditions...especially if there
>>> is a drought elsewhere the frogs will go to wherever they can find
>>> moisture, coverage and food.
>>> Most frogs/toads eat insects and are a definite benefit to any
>>> garden.
>>
>>> I
>>> bet in the evening or after a rain, you can hear the different calls
>>> of the frogs.
>>> There are a lot of websites to help you ID the frog according to
>>> pics and sounds they make.
>>>
>>> Do you have a pond?? That definitely will attract the larger frogs
>>> and
>>
>>> toads. Here the Gulf Coast Toad is everywhere, and will lay eggs in
>>> puddles on the street after a rain. When we moved in (not much
>>> landscaping at all) I saw a number of tiny cricket or chirping frogs.
>>> They made a cute peeping noise in the evenings. We are fortunate not
>>> to have attracted any bullfrogs though....which are the largest, and
>>> will eat just about anything it can fit in it's mouth...including
>>> other frogs, birds, etc. Definitely not a good introduction.
>>>
>>> Noreen
>>> zone 9
>>> Texas Gulf Coast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/10/2006 11:02:17 PM Central Standard Time,
>>> gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:
>>>
>>> About a week ago I was on the back porch and checking out my potted
>>> plants when I realized a pair of eyes were staring back at me! In
>>> the catch tray attached to a hanging pot was a little flog, hanging
>>> over the
>>>
>>> edge checking me out. Since the pot was hanging, we were about
>>> eye-to-eye. And yes, I did startle! So, I couldn't figure out how
>>> the frog got in there, much less how it was surviving. So I took the
>>> pot down and put is on the ground so that the poor thing could hop
>>> out if it
>>>
>>> wanted and go find some food. Which, the frog had disappeared by a
>>> couple hours later. So, I hung the pot back up and didn't see the
>>> frog
>>> anymore- until yesterday. The frog was back in the catch tray AND in
>>> the pot hanging next to it, there was another little frog. I
>>> thought, how cool, I guess they are happy there, so just let them
>>> be. I have one other hanging pot out back, but it doesn't get as
>>> much water, so there was none in the catch tray. So, I filled up the
>>> watering can and
>>
>>> went to fill the catch tray in hopes of attracking another frog
>>> there.
>>
>>> Well, as I was filling up the tray, yet ANOTHER little frog popped
>>> his
>>
>>> head up! So, I stopped filling the tray, since it was already
>>> occupied! I have no clue how the frogs get in or out of the pots-
>>> I'd love to see this in action. I realize they have little suction
>>> cup feet, but still- climbing up or down the plastic hangers can't
>>> be all that easy. What do you think they eat??
>>>
>>> Happy to have some frogs in residence-
>>>
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>> Island Jim
>> Southwest Florida
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>> Heat Zone 10
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> Island Jim
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