Re: life IS good

I'm beginning to think so.  Interesting.  Amen on the Ya-Ya function.  We'll find a way - be there!

Pam


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From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:32:06 -0600

>Again, wow.  Were we separated at birth or WHAT?  Pam knows my 
>background....yours sounds a lot like mine.  Hmmm.  That's probably why we 
>are such nurturing people....it was like a void in our life growing up.  You 
>need to be at our next Ya-Ya event for sure!!!!
>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>Claremore, OK
>Zone 6
>
>
>
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>>From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] life IS good
>>Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 04:51:05 -0500 (EST)
>>
>>  JR:  I think we must have been living the same lives in parallel 
>>universes or something...I have 5 brothers (1 dead) and 1 sister and none 
>>of them are people I freely choose to associate with...My father was a 
>>violently abusive alcoholic and all 6 of my siblings chose to follow him 
>>down the road of alcoholism and drug addiction and all the consequent 
>>negative energy that brought into their lives.  I see my family for one 
>>reason only:  out of love and respect for my mother and only for as long as 
>>I can sanely tolerate it...the choices they have all made for their lives 
>>are not choices I could live with and be spiritually and emotionally 
>>healthy...Even with my mother, I must choose to remember always that she 
>>makes choices that serve her needs and though they are really bad choices 
>>many times, they are hers to make.  I left home forever the day after I 
>>graduated high school and never went back except when it was 
>>unavoidable...even then, there came a point where I eventually t!
>>  old my family of origin that their problems were theirs and I didn't want 
>>to get involved.  To people whose lives have been blessed to never have 
>>known these kinds of maladaptive, abusive family relationships, this might 
>>seem cold and extremely harsh.  For me, it was the ONLY thing that saved me 
>>from a life of misery like the kind I grew up in.  I went to college on 
>>full tuition scholarships, worked 3-4 part time jobs every semester to pay 
>>the rent and so I could eat and I have crafted for myself the life I always 
>>dreamed of having.  It is not a perfect life, but it is a completely sane 
>>and safe one.  Of this one thing I will always be most proud...for my 
>>children, the cycle of abuse that transmits itself intergenerationally has 
>>been stopped...and I can leave this world someday being joyful in that one 
>>thing alone...
>>
>>
>>Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
>>
>>"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
>>--Albert Einstein --- On Sun 12/15, Jesse Bell  wrote:From: Jesse Bell 
>>[mailto: jesserenebell@hotmail.com]To: gardenchat@hort.netDate: Sun, 15 Dec 
>>2002 20:54:09 -0600Subject: Re: [CHAT] life IS goodLinda...I don't think I 
>>could have said it any better.  I come from a big family...and I'm not 
>>close to a single one of them.  As I tell Pam...I am an alien...born into a 
>>family that is nothing like me.  I do not fit in..will never fit in...do 
>>not WANT to fit it.  My father is a racist, bigot, my mother lets him run 
>>all over her and her children (including abuse), my siblings are all "out 
>>there" dwelling on the past or refusing to move forward in their lives 
>>(therapy for 20 years).  I say get over it, move on with your life, adopt 
>>your own family (as Pam says..."friends are family you choose for 
>>yourself")...well, the family I have chosen is outstanding.  I am 
>>respectful of my family and will be there if they need me...but they are 
>>not folks I would choose to hang out with.  And y!
>>  a know what...if it weren't for my family being the way they are...I 
>>would have never picked up my bed and bags and moved on.  I would not have 
>>grown in a spiritual way.  So, for that...I thank my family....because I 
>>like who I have become.Jesse Rene' BellClaremore, OKZone 6>From: "Linda" 
>> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net>To: >Subject: Re: [CHAT] life IS good>Date: 
>>Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:43:06 -0700>>Ceres wrote:>>   I> > >believe as you age 
>>you may miss not having a family.>>Families come in all shapes and sizes.  
>>Some are warm and supportive, some>are mildly abusive, some are cruel and 
>>destructive, some are just not >close,>and some people simply do not have 
>>living relatives.  Not sure I understand>why someone should miss family in 
>>the less pleasant categories, or why the>aging process should be made to 
>>appear more scary to someone who has no>family.>>Linda in 
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