Re: Re: dangerous dogs/over breeding and an ode to bulldogs

Bonnie,
I hope you know my response hadn't been directed at you.  I know you've
taken care of all kinds of dogs.  It was just a general statement.

RE your seeking dogs from outside your county...
Yes, they should have replied - even a postcard.  My guess would be that
they won't place an animal outside their own jurisdiction.  That's the
impression I have of our local shelter.  If you would like I could check
with the SPCA here and see what they have and what their requirements are.
I don't think we'reny farther away than Brown County.  Or did you already
select a dog for her?

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: dangerous dogs/over breeding and an ode to bulldogs


> Not to worry, Kitty.  When we went looking form mom's dog, we checked
rescue
> agencies (including mostly mixed breed animals.)  We have nothing against
> mixed breeds.  We have had some wonderful animals that were not "purebred"
> and if life gives us time, we'll most likely have more through the years.
I
> don't think there is "one" animal above all others (man included.)   Our
> pets become part of our family (for good or for bad) and I can't see
getting
> an animal for prestige.  That's certainly the wrong reason to adopt a pet
> into one's home.
>
> I had been told I'd have no trouble finding an older dog for mom as there
> was a great need for homes for older dogs.  I looked for nearly 3 months
for
> a small older dog for mother.  For some reason, the rescue agencies (with
> the exception of one in Brown County, IN.) did not respond to my inquiries
> about pets they had up for adoption.  I ended up having to put an ad in
> "petfinder.com" before I got any responses at all.  Now that's sad.  Here
> was a home waiting to love an older dog and the agencies hadn't bothered
to
> even contact us after I spent hours filling out forms for the various
> agencies.  Perhaps they were looking for dog-less households, but they
could
> have at least sent off an acknowledgement for receipt of my inquiries.
>
> Blessings,
> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of Kitty
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:29 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: dangerous dogs/over breeding and an ode to
bulldogs
>
> Bonnie,
> I uderstand people liking particular breeds.  My first husband always
wanted
> German Shepherds.  We tried a Malamute once, with mixed results.
> But more and more pets are prestige animals and too many mutts with
> wonderful health and disposition are being left without homes.
>
> Kitty
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:26 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Re: dangerous dogs/over breeding and an ode to
bulldogs
>
>
> > Yup.  Same thing with Toy Fox Terriers.  The one I just got mother is
> > displaying "bi-polar" behavior.  I was laughing when I told the vet I
> never
> > knew whether she wanted to snuggle or snarl and bite me from moment to
> > moment.  He says that that is an increasing problem with Toy Foxes
because
> > of over breeding.  Sassy, Mom's Toy Fox Terrier, sees the vet this
> weekend.
> > I'm banking he'll have to muzzle that 5 lbs of confused animal.  (Those
> > teeth are like staples and will go right through a finger.  I have the
> > evidence on my right hand.)
> >
> > The one thing I like about bulldogs is that it's really difficult to
> > "over-breed" them, and expensive, too. (O.K., and many folks think they
> are
> > ugly or scary, so maybe they aren't quite as popular as some.  It's
really
> > hard to make a profit when breeding bulldogs because of the expenses of
> > insemination or the breeder has to use a specialized stool to strap the
> > female to so the male won't hurt her and it takes patience to get the
> female
> > comfortable with that!  The average lifespan of a bulldog is only about
10
> > years.  They will teeth on bricks and boulders, if available, but you're
> > your furniture, walls, etc. are at risk, too. It is best to teeth them
in
> a
> > cinderblock room.  Oh, yeah, and they are gaseous critters who love to
> slime
> > their loved ones right after they come away from a water dish with jowls
> > dripping and are easily nauseated.) I don't think most females can throw
> > more than 4-5 litters and most only have 2-3 pups all by cesarean
section.
> > (Of course, Izzie's mom had 8 little pups, but I'm not counting on Izzie
> to
> > have that many.  I also don't plan to breed her more than once, and only
> > because we promised the lady who bred her we'd give her the choice of
any
> > puppies.  (Izzie's mom died shortly after we got her.  They think it was
> > heat stroke as she got out the doggie door on a very hot day.  Most
> bulldogs
> > can't take extreme temps.)
> >
> > It takes a unique individual to love a bulldog. :>) They are the best
dogs
> I
> > know with children as they hardly feel any pain.  They are loyal to a
> fault
> > and literally will pine to death if they lose their family.  Many are
> > layback by age 3-4 and most are eager to please though stubborn as all
get
> > out.  It's easier to injure a bulldog with sharp words than a swat on
the
> > backside.  And, usually, once someone has the love of a bulldog, they
will
> > always seek out bulldogs as pets.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of cathy carpenter
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:44 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: What are you reading/cats NOW deer
> >
> > And the reason that Cocker Spaniels are biters? They were victims of
> > the "popularity" syndrome. A breed gets popular, and the "puppy mills"
> > go into high gear. The indiscriminate breeding essentially promotes
> > tendencies that should be discouraged - and it isn't just limited to
> > tendencies like biting. There are breeds that may be susceptible to hip
> > dysplasias or other health related problems - these could be bred out,
> > but the greed of owners precludes it.
> > Cathy
> > On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 08:43 AM, Jesse Bell wrote:
> >
> > > That's crazy.  Then they need to outlaw about half the dog breeds out
> > > there.  Cocker Spaniels are on the number one worst list for biting.
> > > What about pit bulls (my stepson has two that are gentle giants).
> > > I've said it before...and I'll say it again.....PEOPLE ARE STUPID.
> >
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