RE: OT: to my friends

his skinny frame just begins to shut down - not enough
> meat on my bones, I guess.

Hey, Linda, who you callin' fat? ;+)
Well, maybe we do all react differently. But it seems to me that the
standard of what they call "room temperature" is supposed to be 70
degrees. 67-73 is ok by me if I'm sitting, but if I'm moving around,
working, I like it cooler than that. And summer days when it hits 90s or
even high 80s if the RH is at 99%, most of my energy is just drained out
of me.


Do you suppose some of this has to do with blood pressure? Mine was
always low when I was younger, but is on the higher side of normal these
days.


And in my defense against an 80 degree office...She can put on a
sweater. I don't have anything to remove. I have to be sure it's darned
cold out before I can even wear a sweater to work at all.


Kitty

> Well, Kitty, I must admit I react to cold by getting sleepy.  If the
> guys in the office prevail and all the thermostats are lowered much
> below 68 degrees I will start yawning my head off - regardless of my
> activity level.  This skinny frame just begins to shut down - not enough
> meat on my bones, I guess.
> 
> Lynda
> Zone 7 - West TN
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of kmrsy@comcast.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:34 AM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my friends
> 
> 
> > As I recall getting sleepy is one of the first stages of hypothermia.
> 
> Now, come on! This woman in my office is not going to get hypothermia
> because I lowered the temp in her office from 78 to 77. And even those
> of us who lower our temps at home at night (mine is 61 night 67 day - up
> to 70 if I do feel cold) to perhaps 60 are not going to get hypothermia
> from it. Yes, you get sleepy with hypothermia, but I can't imagine
> getting sleepy DURING THE WORKDAY because you're chilly.
> 
> 
> Conversely, at night WHEN I WANT TO SLEEP, I'm more comfortable in a
> cool environment. If I get too warm it will wake me up. So, now that it
> is dark outside in the morning so the natural brightening of the room
> doesn't wake me up, the steady warming of the room does as the the
> programmed thermostat brings it up to 67 degrees.
> 
> 
> It's not my intention to argue.  How abbout a poll?
> During the workday, do you get sleepy if you are too warm or too cold?
> 
> Kitty
> > Me too Melody. As I recall getting sleepy is one of the first stages 
> > of hypothermia. Got stranded in the mountains in PA (college days) in 
> > the snow and did everything I could to stay awake. Knew if I succumbed
> 
> > to sleep, I'd be a goner.
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Date:  Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:03:49 -0500 (EST)
> > 
> > >Kitty: You get sleepy when you get hot??? That's how I get when I am 
> > >cold...very sleepy...and it is so difficult to regulate the 
> > >temperature in such a large hospital as the one I work in...freezing 
> > >or boiling...nothing in between.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > >
> > >"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
> > >--Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > --- On Wed 12/17, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> > >From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> > >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 08:54:02 -0500
> > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my friends
> > >
> > >> idiots here at work who like to run the air conditioner in
> > >December.<br><br>Well, Pam, you just described me, sort of. Our 
> > >weather in neIN fluctuates<br>and althought today's high will only be
> 
> > >the high 20s with no sun, a week or<br>so ago it was low 50s and very
> 
> > >sunny. When it is sunny and 50s our building<br>where I work absorbs 
> > >that heat and the thermostat showed 78 degrees in the<br>front office
> 
> > >where the only windows are. My office is in the center of 
> > >the<br>building, no windows and I have 3 track lights bearing down on
> 
> > >me with a hot<br>computer next to me, which all yields a temperature 
> > >of about 82 degrees in<br>my office with no air circulation in the 
> > >afternoon after lunch.<br><br>About 3pm I went to the front office 
> > >and switched the air on for a few<br>minutes. As I walked away, the 
> > >secretary got up and turned it back to<br>heat - which I knew she 
> > >would, but didn't expect it that quickly. So I<br>turned back and 
> > >switched it again. She started yelling that the heat<br>hadn't been 
> > >running most of the day and I told her I had to have just a<br>little
> 
> > >air circulation, just 5 minutes, please. She relented sullenly. 
> > >I<br>did turn it off after 5 minutes. If the boss wants to pay me to 
> > >sleep,<br>fine, cuz that's all he'll get from me in an 80+ degree 
> > >office with no air<br>circulation.<br>----- Original Message ----- 
> > ><br>From: "Pamela J. Evans"
> > ><gardenqueen@gbronline.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent:
> > >Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:32 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my
> > >friends<br><br><br>> God love you child! I'm not anemic, my
> thermostat's
> > >just set a little<br>> higher than most. The joke here at work is
> they
> > >know it's over 80<br>> degrees when I take my jacket off. Anything
> under
> > >75 is uncomfortable<br>> and below 60 is sheer torture.<br>><br>>
> Most
> > >of the year, that works out just fine! It doesn't help that we
> have<br>>
> > >idiots here at work who like to run the air conditioner in
> > >December.<br>> Bunch of homesick Eskimos if you ask me!!<br>><br>>
> Break
> > >out the hot chocolate and peach brandy -
> > >
> > >they'll keep you warm from<br>the inside in a pinch - LOL.<br>><br>> 
> > >back to work.....<br>><br>> ---------- Original Message 
> > >----------------------------------<br>> From: "Melody" 
> > ><mhobertm@excite.com><br>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: 
> > >Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:16:00 -0500 (EST)<br>><br>> >Pam: Staying warm is
> 
> > >not really an option for me at this time of<br>> >year...I get cold 
> > >about mid-October and don't really warm up again until<br>> 
> > >>July...that's the consequence of chronic anemia (it's a 
> > >hereditary<br>> >thing, not an iron deficiency)...today it was in the
> 
> > >low 20's but with<br>> >winds gusting in excess of 20 miles an hour, 
> > >it brought the wind chill<br>>
> > >>factor down to single digits...tough driving on the interstate too
> > >with<br>> >winds like that...but the silver lining is that it freeze 
> > >dried all the<br>> >roads in just a few hours...it has been very 
> > >rainy/drizzling here for a<br>> >couple of days and things were very 
> > >wet and icy slick...but bitterly<br>> >cold winds did the trick and 
> > >though we are cold, we are dry! So it is<br>> >safe to drive once 
> > >again! Thanks for the kind words, though...the<br>> >thought is 
> > >appreciated! :-)<br>>
> > >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>> ><br>> >"The most
> > >beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."<br>> >--Albert 
> > >Einstein<br>> ><br>> > --- On Tue 12/16, Pamela J. Evans < 
> > >gardenqueen@gbronline.com > wrote:<br>> >From: Pamela J. Evans 
> > >[mailto: gardenqueen@gbronline.com]<br>> >To: 
> > >gardenchat@hort.net<br>> >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 19:12:34 -0600<br>> 
> > >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT: to my friends<br>> ><br>> >Just read this 
> > >again. It's so great!! Your friendship is a true jewel<br>> >in<br>my
> 
> > >spiritual treasure chest. In that respect, I'm quite rich -<br>> 
> > >>thanks to<br>friends like you!! Stay warm girl!<br><br><br>love ya 
> > >-<br>> ><br><br>Pam<br><br>---------- Original Message<br>> 
> > >>----------------------------------<br>From:
> > >"Melody"<br>> ><mhobertm@excite.com><br>Reply-To:
> > >gardenchat@hort.net<br>Date: Mon, 15<br>> >Dec 2003 05:49:51 -0500
> > >(EST)<br><br>>Dear
> > >
> > >fr
> > >iends: This was sent to me<br>> >by my dearest friend in the whole 
> > >world and I wanted to pass it on to<br>> >all of you...<br>><br>>Fwd:
> 
> > >I think you will really like this, so make<br>> >sure you read all 
> > >the way down to the last<br>> >sentence...enjoy<br>><br>>There once 
> > >was a little girl who had a bad<br>> >temper. Her mother gave her 
> > >a<br>>bag of nails and told her that every<br>> >time she lost her 
> > >temper, she must<br>>hammer a nail into the back of<br>> >the fence. 
> > >The first day the girl had<br>>driven 37 nails into the<br>> >fence. 
> > >Over the next few weeks, as she learned<br>>to control her 
> > >anger,<br>> >the number of nails hammered daily 
> > >gradually<br>>dwindled down. She<br>> >discovered it was easier to 
> > >hold her temper than to<br>>drive those<br>> >nails into the fence. 
> > >Finally the day came when the girl<br>>didn't lose<br>> >her temper 
> > >at all. She told her mother about it and the<br>>mother<br>>
> > >>suggested that the girl now pull out one nail for each day
> > >that<br>>she<br>> >was able to hold her temper. The days passed and 
> > >the young girl<br>> >was<br>>finally able to tell her mother that all
> 
> > >the nails were gone.<br>> >The mother<br>>took her daughter by the 
> > >hand and led her to the fence.<br>> >She said, "You<br>>have done 
> > >well, my daughter, but look at the holes in<br>> >the fence. 
> > >The<br>>fence will never be the same. When you say things in<br>> 
> > >>anger, they leave a<br>>scar just like this one. " You can put a 
> > >knife<br>> >in a person and draw it<br>>out. It won't matter how many
> 
> > >times you say<br>> >I'm sorry, the wound is<br>>still there. A verbal
> 
> > >wound is as bad as a<br>>
> > >>physical one.<br>><br>><br>>Friends are very rare jewels, indeed.
> > >They<br>> >make you smile and encourage<br>>you to succeed. They lend
> 
> > >an ear, they<br>> >shar<br>> ><br>> >e words of praise and 
> > >they<br>>always want to open their hearts to<br>> 
> > >>us.<br>><br>><br>>Show your friends how much you care. Send this 
> > >to<br>> >everyone you consider<br>>a FRIEND, even if it means sending
> 
> > >it back to<br>> >the person who sent it to<br>>you. If it co
> > >
> > >mes back to you, then you'll<br>> >know you have a circle 
> > >of<br>>friends. Happy Friendship week! You are my<br>> >friend and I 
> > >am honored. Now<br>>send this to every friend you have!!<br>> >And to
> 
> > >your family. Please forgive<br>>me if I have ever left a hole in<br>>
> > >>your<br>><br>>fence.<br>><br>><br>><br>>Melody<br>><br>>____________
> > >>__________
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