Re: Christmas giving programs
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- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas giving programs
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- Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 20:06:50 -0800
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Thank you for saying so well, what I didn't make time to say myself. Theresa
Melody wrote:
Just a thought...as a child whose family often had to rely on the kindness (or not) of others for Christmas, I learned at a very young age not to expect too much...Santa was a fantasy long before I'd hit my sixth birthday...the disappointment every year was just too much. Anything we got beyond the requisite socks and underwear was a bonus. Especially around this time of year, I feel truly saddened by the fact that in this country where so much wealth abounds that it is almost shameful, there are tens of thousands more children who will learn the same lessons of going through life expecting that very little of the prettier things in life will ever come their way. The disillusionment of poverty can be crippling...emotionally and spiritually deadening any belief in joy and removing forever any possible belief in magic. To this day, I can only celebrate Christmas with half a heart and if it weren't for the miracles of my children's smiles on that day when they wake up and for a few hours the world and all the pretty things is theirs for the taking, I doubt I'd even manage that. I try very hard to ground my children in the more spiritual aspects of this season all year long...they truly appreciate the gift of Jesus as their personal Savior...and on more than this one day, so I find it easier to indulge them on Christmas. And I know that as long as I am alive, my kids will never, ever wake up to just socks and underwear for Christmas.
Sorry...off the soapbox now. Except to say perhaps that before one turns to making generalizations about poor kids stealing things, one ought to look at the incidence of shoplifting and kleptomania among more affluent members of our society...it far exceeds that done by poorer children.
Melody
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious." --Albert Einstein
--- On Wed 11/24, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote: From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net] To: gardenchat@hort.net Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:07:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas giving programs
I agree the basics are important, but the "wants" for material things<br>shouldn't be overlooked at Christmas. It doesn't have to be bling, but with<br>the serviceable tube socks, couldn't you include one pair with pink lace<br>around the edge? It's Cmas and everyone needs a little sparkle.<br>It is sad that the assumption is that anything a poor child wants but<br>doesn't get will be stolen. I know some of that will happen, but I don't<br>think it is true across the board.<br><br>Kitty<br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From: "F M Ferrari" <fm4re@swbell.net><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:15 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Christmas giving programs<br><br><br>> You know, I really don't think that Jim's remark is that off. If these<br>> kids are so poor, then they need some basics. Here at work, we always<br>> adopt families and kids. Often request a list of "wants" for Christmas.<br>> Let me tell you these "poor" kids want more material things than most<br>> kids I know. Lot's of requests for name brand stuff that is tied into<br>> gang affiliation, lot's of "bling bling", etc.<br>><br>><br>> Yeah, like anything related to gangs is going to be bought by<br>> corrections employees! I hate how ungrateful so many of our adoptees<br>> are. I'll only contribute stuff like socks and underwear, let them steal<br>> the other stuff they want - I need a job until I retire. Fran (I'm a<br>> biostatistician for OK corrections medical services)<br>><br>><br>> Jesse Bell <silverhawk@flash.net> wrote:<br>> *snicker*...why does that NOT surprise me Jim. You crack me up. While<br>you're at it...throw a lump of cole in there too. LOL<br>><br>> Jesse<br>><br>> james singer wrote:<br>> I don't know about the area where you live, but here there are several<br>> organizations that want you to pick a child's name out of some sort of<br>> replica of a hat and then go buy that child something for christmas. I<br>> think this is a great idea. I intend to buy several of these children<br>> the sam
e sort of presents I got when I was their age. Socks and<br>> underwear.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Island Jim<br>> Southwest Florida<br>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W<br>> Zone 10a<br>> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]<br>><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Support hort.net -- join the hort.net fund drive!<br>> http://www.hort.net/funds/<br>><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Support hort.net -- join the hort.net fund drive!<br>> http://www.hort.net/funds/<br>><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> Support hort.net -- join the hort.net fund drive!<br>> http://www.hort.net/funds/<br><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Support hort.net -- join the hort.net fund drive!<br>
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