Re: New or Tried and True?
gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: New or Tried and True?
  • From: B* <b*@comcast.net>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 01:50:46 +0000 (UTC)
Years ago, my husband brought me a large bouquet because he thought them
so beautiful. We were saddened when they closed up and didn't realize
that more would open the next morning. Later, I found that they used to
be considered a "clock" flower. When field hands saw them closed, they
knew it was time for lunch.


B 
ETN Zone 7 
Remember the River Raisin, the Alamo, the Maine, Pearl Harbor, 911. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <inlandjim1@q.com> 
To: gardenchat@hort.net 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:30:48 PM 
Subject: Re: [CHAT] New or Tried and True? 

Me too, Bonnie. I think the chicory is the most beautiful blue of any, 
flower or not. 

On Dec 18, 2010, at 5:16 PM, BONNIE_HOLMES wrote: 

> I like wildflowers, too and often take seeds from the road sides. I 
> now 
> have a chicory in the bed near the front door. I know some people 
> consider it trash but I think the blue flower is worth it. 
> 
> 
> B 
> ETN Zone 7 
> Remember the River Raisin, the Alamo, the Maine, Pearl Harbor, 911. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Aplfgcnys@aol.com 
> To: gardenchat@hort.net 
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:37:37 PM 
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] New or Tried and True? 
> 
> I may be a stick-in-the-mud, but I always go for the tried and true. 
> If a new plant looks especially attractive, I watch it for a few years 
> before I try it, but generally I stick with what I know will work. 
> What 
> annoys me is when I can't find an old established variety because it 
> has been crowded out by something new. 
> I have a great love of wildflowers, and I have a good friend who is 
> also 
> a good grower, but she says she will not grow anything that has not 
> been improved by human development - she calls wildflowers garbage. 
> I think she is blinding herself to so much beauty with this attitude. 
> Sure, development takes placde and many things are improved, but 
> that doesn't mean that the the things we had were not worthwhile. 
> Just my rant on the topic. 
> APL 
> 
> In a message dated 12/18/2010 5:30:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> cathycrc@comcast.net writes: 
> 
> My sentiments exactly! 
> Cathy, west central IL, z5b 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:30 AM, andreah wrote: 
> 
>> I'm really leaning towards the tried and true. I LOVE LOVE LOVE 
>> those new 
>> Echinacea, however every single one I've ever tried has died except, 
>> of 
>> course the original purple cone flower. Those, I can't divide fast 
>> enough. 
>> 
>> I tried the Limerock ruby back when it came out. It died. So, I am 
>> sticking 
>> with what I know will do here now. I don't want to spend the money 
>> and I 
>> want my plants to thrive! 
>> A 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] 
>> On Behalf 
>> Of Daryl 
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:20 AM 
>> To: gardenchat 
>> Subject: [CHAT] New or Tried and True? 
>> 
>> I was reading a trade article and the interviewee was asked what he 
>> thought 
>> of 
>> some of the new perennials. He replied, " Coreopsis 'Crhme Brulee,' 
>> and 
>> 'Limerock Ruby': These were hot, hot plants five years ago. 
>> Everybody had to 
>> have them. Now, they're like the lepers of the perennial community." 
>> 
>> I like that phrase, "the lepers of the perennial community." It 
>> fits. The 
>> only 
>> thing good about some plants, like 'Limerock Ruby', is that they 
>> make way 
>> for 
>> something else to kill. 
>> 
>> I've seen so many plants come and go in my previous hort-head life 
>> that I 
>> now 
>> prefer to grow the tried and true. If they're newer plants, I want 
>> them 
>> tested 
>> in my climate. I don't care whether a plant does great in Chicago. I 
>> want it 
>> tested at UGA. Even though UGA is a bit warmer in winter than my 
>> area, and 
>> the 
>> soil is better, and there are plenty of garden slaves (hort 
>> students) to 
>> take 
>> care of the beds and to weed and water, at least it's humid - with 
>> hideously 
>> hot days and many hot nights. If a plant thrives there, it's likely 
>> to 
>> survive 
>> in my garden. 
>> 
>> What do you think? Are you still wanting plants that are on the 
>> cutting 
>> edge, 
>> or do you prefer to save the money and the aggravation? 
>> 
>> d 
> 
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