Re: Re: Descanso Lilacas
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Descanso Lilacas
- From: "Kitty Morrissy" k*@earthlink.net
- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:39:13 -0500
Wow, Tony, kinda neat to have been there when history was being made, huh?
Wish I could afford to do something I really enjoy. Forest Farm carries
Lavender Lady and 2 other Descanso cultivars.
Kitty
> [Original Message]
> From: <romans810@juno.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Cc: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 2/10/2003 11:00:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: Descanso Lilacas
>
> The Descanso Lilac you're discussing is " Lavender Lady". I worked for
> Descanso Nursery in the early 50's when the lilac was released. It was
> patented & they got 15.00 for 2 gal can wholesale.
> We grew 1000's & they sold like "hot cakes" in S. Cal. Many cold climate
> people were migrating & they wanted something that reminded them of "
> home". I grew azaleas / camellias for them. the Descanso Gardens in La
> Canada, east of Pasadena near the foothills. It was started by Manchester
> Boddy, who ran the LA. Daily News.
> his son, Bob ran the nursery. He was quite an innovator for new ideas for
> the retail trade. He started flocking Pineas Pinea's & decorating Hollies
> for CHRISTmas. The nursery moved to Fort Bragg, Calif just inland from
> the Mendecino coast in the Redwoods & got into Rhodies, skimmia,
> Leucothe & Oregon Grape. I believe it's still there.
>
> Tony Veca <><
> Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
> Vancouver, WA
>
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:06:06 -0500 "kmrsy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net> writes:
> > Re the Descano Lilacs -
> > Horticulture mag just arrived and this is addressed in their Q&A
> > section
> > (paraphrased):
> > Q:How far south can lilacs be grown?
> > A: Leu Gardens in Orlando, Z9 has tried a number of lilac cultivars
> >
> > unsuccessfully. including the CA-bred Descanos. These were bred
> > specifically to thrive in the dry, hot environment of southern CA.
> > LA
> > county shares the same hardiness zone, but there the lilacs
> > experience
> > lower night temps. The Descanos planted in the southeast have been
> >
> > short-lived and highly susceptible to powdery mildew.
> > Gardeners in Z8, however, can try growing the Japanese tree lilac,
> > Syringa reticulata 'Ivory Silk', Peking Lilac, S. reticulata ssp
> > pekinensis, Cutleaf Lilac, S. x laciniata, early flwring lilac, S. x
> >
> > hyacinthiflora, and S. pubescens ssp. patula 'Miss Kim'.
> > Another possibility is 'Betsy Ross', a recent Natl Arboretum
> > release.
> > This white, early-flwrg lilac has the characteristics of French
> > lilacs
> > with the added bonus of heat tolerance from one of the parents, S
> > oblata
> > var. donaldii. Dr. Margaret Pooler, at the NA, hopes to release 1
> > or2
> > other heat-tolerant varieties in the nxt several yrs.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > Kitty Morrissy wrote:
> > > Andrea,
> > > I looked for both 'Blue Skies' and 'Monroe' and found it, but not
> > for less
> > > money. However, Forest Farm carries Descano Hybrid Warm Winter
> > Lilacs in
> > > white, pink, and lilac. Tubes are $6.95, gallons $9.00. Their
> > shipping
> > > costs can be rough, but it might be worth looking into.
> > > Kitty
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>[Original Message]
> > >>From: Andrea H <hodgesaa@islc.net>
> > >>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >>Date: 2/9/2003 10:15:45 PM
> > >>Subject: [CHAT] Syringia 'blue skies
> > >>
> > >>has anyone out of the normal zones tried this lilac? Wayside
> > gardens says
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>hardy zones 4-9 and tolerates heat and humidity and doesn't require
> > the
> > >>chilling hours to set buds that other lilac do. my brother-in law
> > wants
> > >
> > > to try
> > >
> > >>one and so do I but we don't want to spend $25 on a gallon pot if
> > they are
> > >>going to croak.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Andrea H
> > >>Beaufort, SC
> > >>Zone 8b
> > >>
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> Tony Veca <><
> Another Gr888 Day in Paradise !!!!!
> Vancouver, WA
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