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Re: Iraq/ VA hospitals

re: "Richard made the point that most people don't realize these
problems until it hits their home town, or comes to light through a
conflict situation.

Awareness brings forth change."

Noreen: I think you and Rich have both made an excellent point...as
American citizens we should all be concerned with the health and well
being of those persons who have dedicated themselves to serving, no
matter what length of time, in our military...it is not something I
would choose to do voluntarily and I am grateful to those individuals
who do choose to serve in the Armed Forces. It is through our constant
effort to legislate better funding for improvements at all our nations
military and veteran's administration hospitals that we can help insure
proper care for those who need it. As with so many things, especially in
our little democracy, our voice can make a difference but only if we
exercise it in the direction of our elected representatives who make
those decisions about $$$$.

Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Tue 02/03,  < TeichFlora@aol.com > wrote:
From:  [mailto: TeichFlora@aol.com]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:42:07 EST
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Iraq/ VA hospitals

First my apologies for my posting to have gone through more than once.
<br><br>Ceres, I was not talking about VA hospitals. BAMC is not a VA
hospital. <br>Obviously we were talking about two different types of
hospitals, thanks for <br>clearing this up. <br>I agree with your views
on VA hospitals. Rank has little to do with it <br>though, but there is
a major distinction placed on someone that gave their life <br>(retired)
or someone that only put in a few years. There should not be, but
<br>there is. Much has to do with economic status. Most veterans are
able to hold <br>jobs, so have health insurance through their jobs.
<br>Unfortunately, the veterans that were wounded badly
enough...physically or <br>mentally....are the ones that are not able to
hold jobs and are the ones that go <br>to the VA hospitals....especially
the Vietnam Veterans.<br><br>Things have gotten better in recent years
through efforts of the various <br>military organizations that have
lobbied in Washington for more funding, better <br>care, etc. I can't
speak for other areas, but this is apparent here in Texas <br>with many
brand new VA hospitals having been built in the past decade. I've been
<br>to three of these, and find them to be excellent facilities. In the
past <br>month former Pres. Bush was at a ground breaking ceremony here
in Houston for a <br>Fisher house to be built on the VA Hospital complex
to house the families of <br>those veterans that are from further away
and can't afford hotel costs. San <br>Antonio has two of these
facilities, which are full now with families of <br>soldiers from Iraq.
So much is improving, but unfortunately there is much to go.
<br><br>Richard made the point that most people don't realize these
problems until it <br>hits their home town, or comes to light through a
conflict situation. <br>Awareness brings forth change.<br>Noreen<br>zone
9<br>Texas Gulf Coast<br><br>In a message dated 2/2/2004 7:56:47 PM
Central Standard Time, <br>gardenchat-owner@hort.net writes:<br><< As
for Milita

ry hospitals, please note that military hospitals and <br>Veterans
<br>hospitals are two different things. >><br><br>Noreen, I am very much
aware of the differences.<br><br><a military hospital over a civilian
any day.>><br><br> Not a VA hospital and certainly not in this area. I
think I did not make <br>my point clear. <br><br><< I have to say that
most people that have experienced both would take <br>a military
hospital over a civilian any day.>><br><br> Not at a VA hospital or
least that is not the voices I hear in this area.<br><br>>>my dad,
retired army, had a heart attack while working in <br>Germany as a
civilian for the US Govt<<<br>I am speaking of the vet who was an
enlistee/drafted, spent their 3 or 4 yrs <br>serving their country and
suffer from some physical problem. I do not think <br>these vets receive
the same treatment your dad rcd. Obviously he had hi rank.<br>
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