Re: Iraq/ VA hospitals

And there are others that are invested solely in the company's stock, which is okay for now if the company is Microsoft but sucks if the company is Enron or Zapata Petroleum.



On Saturday, February 7, 2004, at 01:41 PM, Kitty wrote:

Separation of funds isn't a guarantee.  Some companies set them up with
loopholes and raid them.
Othertimes the funds are mismanaged (poorly invested or excessive
'expenses') and then can't afford to supply as promised.
Kitty

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Iraq/ VA hospitals


That is true for companies that do not separate their retirement funds
from
the business funds. When it is mixed, it is too tempting to get into it
when business is bad or goes belly up. But, military service could/should
be different...especially when it is a matter of life and death and when
you are serving so that others can enjoy a good life. Also, think that
those non-citizens that fight for us should receive citizenship as part of
their benefits, especially during military action.

Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN




[Original Message]
From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 02/07/2004 7:16:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Iraq/ VA hospitals

Agreed. But how many people in our country have worked for years only
to
find that their pensions are either not there as promised, or
drastically 
reduced?  Not much you can do.
Kitty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Iraq/ VA hospitals


But you would think this would work like a normal contract...whatever
benefits you signed up under should be yours...changes could be made
for
new recruits but it seems to me that benefits at the time of signing
would
be considered conditions of employment.

Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN




[Original Message]
From: cathy carpenter <cathyc@rnet.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 02/06/2004 2:18:45 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Iraq/ VA hospitals

Of course it would, but recruiters are under exactly the same
pressures
as salespersons who must make a quota, or professors who must
"publish 
or perish".
Cathy
On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 01:55 AM, Melody wrote:

Well I kind of think that it would help if it was explained
CLEARLY
to
folks who go into the military that just because certain benefits
exist
at the time of their enrollment, it doesn't mean those benefits
will
last a lifetime, and that those benefits are always, always
subject
to
change under new legislation...



Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
--Albert Einstein


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