Re: Happy Birthday!


Bonnie, that's nice to know, I always thought it was punishment for enjoying
sex.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bonnie Holmes" <holmesbm@usit.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!


> One of my close friends, who has two teenage boys, keeps a sign on her
> refrigerator door:  "Teenagers are why some animals eat their young".
>
> Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 02/08/2004 12:27:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
> >
> > Jesse,
> > You know, some day they will thank you for that.  If not, well, watch
for
> > the "what goes around, comes around" syndrome, when they have kids of
> their
> > own.
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
> >
> >
> > > When I was a single mother...and BROKE...my three children new what a
> > budget
> > > was...I bought enough groceries for the week...if they ate more than
the
> > > "allotted" share for school lunches, then they didn't get a juice box
or
> > > cookies on Friday.  They were doing laundry, vacuuming, helping with
> > dishes,
> > > mowing and all that.  It's that "magical" number....around 15 or 16
> where
> > > they THINK they are helping you, but not without major attitude and
> > rolling
> > > of eyes, and they do a half-assed job and don't "get it" when I tell
> them
> > to
> > > do it again, only BETTER this time.  Yours are still young.  I'll bet
> > money
> > > on it when they get older you'll see that change in them.  It's just
> part
> > of
> > > being a teenager.  They are also at that age where they push you to
the
> > > limit.  Curfew for the 15 year olds is 11:00 on Friday/Saturday
> (football
> > > games, basketball games, school dances).  The other night...they
dragged
> > > home at almost 1:00 a.m.  At 7:00 a.m. I had their butts up and said,
> "if
> > you
> > > keep me up till 1:00 worrying, then you get to get up early, feed ALL
> the
> > > animals and help around the house...and there will be NO naps today!"
> > They
> > > were in bed that night at 8:30.  And grounded.  It's just part of
> raising
> > a
> > > houseful of teenagers.  I was prepared.  When I married DH, his first
> two
> > > children were 15 and 17.  It was baptism by fire for me.  You're
> supposed
> > to
> > > "gradually grow into the teen years".  Well, I didn't get to do that.
> > They
> > > were awful.  But now...I love being around them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
> > > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
> > > >Date: Sat,  7 Feb 2004 19:32:17 -0500 (EST)
> > > >
> > > >Jesse: Just another tip...you might try the "If I'm cleaning then
> > > >everybody is cleaning" routine, too...meaning no one goes anywhere or
> > > >does anything, not even talk on the phone, until and unless what
needs
> > > >to be done around the house gets done...with a group effort. You
might
> > > >also want to tell your kids that at half their ages, my 3 already
know
> > > >how to use all the major household appliances (dishwasher, washing
> > > >machine, dryer, microwave, vacuum, stove/oven) and use them on a
> routine
> > > >(i.e. daily/weekly) basis...I gave up being a martyr mom a long time
> > > >ago, too...course I must admit, that if I want the kids' rooms to be
> > > >**really** clean...that's a whole other experience so I've learned to
> > > >lower my standards a little when it comes to how the kids clean their
> > > >own rooms. Good luck with your strike...and hang in...children and
> > > >husbands are capable of learning new tricks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> > > >
> > > >"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> > > >--Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >  --- On Sat 02/07, Jesse Bell < jesserenebell@hotmail.com > wrote:
> > > >From: Jesse Bell [mailto: jesserenebell@hotmail.com]
> > > >To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:16:57 -0600
> > > >Subject: Re: [CHAT] Happy Birthday!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks! And no, you don't sound preachy at all. It's just the truth.
> > > >I've <br>hit that point in my life where my family thinks I've gone
> > > >insane and <br>&quot;changed&quot;. LOL. Because I've gone on strike.
> > > >When they ask &quot;what's for <br>dinner?&quot; I say &quot;I don't
> > > >know, what are you fixing?&quot; When my husband can't <br>find
clothes
> > > >I say &quot;I don't know, ask the laundry fairy what she did with
> > > ><br>it&quot;. It dawned on me that I have a house full of teenagers
and
> > > >a husband <br>who think they can't do anything. The youngest three
are
> > > >all 15 years old. <br>The other is 17. The oldest two are gone. I
work
> > > >outside the home. So <br>does my husband. So why should I be the one
> who
> > > >plans dinners, does all the <br>laundry and somehow magically know
> where
> > > >to find things that they have lost? <br> It escapes me. So...about
two
> > > >weeks ago, I did the &quot;meltdown&quot; thing and <br>gathered the
> > > >whole family together and told them that I am not their maid or
> > > ><br>housekeeper, I will be taking time to do the things that I want
to
> > > >do and if <br>that bothers them, TOO BAD! They always seem to find
time
> > > >to do what they <br>want to do, but I'm the one stuck cleaning the
> house
> > > >and such. NO MORE. I <br>told my husband if he wants a clean and
> > > >spotless house, then get after it or <br>hire a housecleaner. I will
do
> > > >SOME, but not ALL anymore. And I warned <br>them that gardening
season
> > > >is around the corner and if they need <br>me...they'll know where to
> > > >find me...and it WON'T be in the house. I've <br>heard this happens
to
> > > >women when they hit the menopausal years.....well....I <br>guess it
hit
> > > >me. I do NOT have to do this anymore. They are all quite <br>capable
of
> > > >doing it themselves. I am not Saint Jesse the martyr. If they
<br>want
> > > >something...learn to do it themselves. End of discussion. So, now
> > > ><br>they think I've become this grouchy person. OH
> > > >well.<br><br><br><br>Jesse Rene' Bell<br>Claremore, OK<br>Zone
> > > >6<br><br><br><br><br><br>&gt;From: Aplfgcnys@aol.com<br>&gt;Reply-To:
> > > >gardenchat@
> > > >
> > > >hort.net<br>&gt;To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>&gt;Subject: Re: [CHAT]
> Happy
> > > >Birthday!<br>&gt;Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 12:17:11
> > > >EST<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Belated Happy Birthday, Jesse. Here's hoping it
was
> a
> > > >good one. Don't <br>&gt;give<br>&gt;up your dreams for your own
> business
> > > >- time passes more quickly than you <br>&gt;would<br>&gt;believe. I
do
> > > >know that from your perspective, you young women think
> > > >your<br>&gt;hectic over-crowded days with a houseful will never end,
> but
> > > >kids do grow <br>&gt;up<br>&gt;eventually (sometimes it takes longer
> > > >than you expect) and the days do come <br>&gt;when<br>&gt;you can do
> > > >those things you dream about. Just have faith. Forgive me if
> > > >I<br>&gt;sound &quot;preachy,&quot; but I've been there.
> > >
> >
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