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Re: Re: Zone 10/ saving plants


Yeah, I think I'm going to have to do that next fall because I just
can't imagine my garden long term without these beauties! However, I
think it's probably going to have to be a "You want them, You dig them"
kind of offer because frankly, I know myself well enough to know that if
it's left up to me, the poor things will get left in the ground to
rot...


Also, I know I've mentioned this before (long time ago) that a friend of
mine said she uses her potato and onion bags to plant her
dig-up-in-the-fall bulbs/tubers in, then when it's time to lift them she
simply pulls on the two ends of the bag and out they come...I think I'll
finally get around to trying this and see if it actually works. My
concern is that the bags would degrade just enough to fall apart when I
pull on them and make the whole thing pointless...but I guess I'll never
know until I try it.



Melody, IA (Z 5/4)

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Wed 02/18, Donna < justme@prairieinet.net > wrote:
From: Donna [mailto: justme@prairieinet.net]
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:05:08 -0600
Subject: Re: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10/ saving plants

Well..... offer the extras to folks here, or in your
community.<br><br>For istance, I usually save some of each kind, but
this last fall,<br>between crazy weather, business trips, and illness..
I lost them all. By<br>the time I could get out there and do something,
they were mush.<br>Guessing this gives me the opportunity to pick out
new varieties....<br><br><br>Donna<br>who lost many TP and tropical
stuff last year:(<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From:
Melody<br>Sent: 2/18/2004 4:15:29 AM<br>To:
gardenchat@hort.net<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10/ saving
plants<br><br>> My problem with saving Cannas, which I absolutely love
and my husband<br>> adores is that if you plant 5 tubers in the spring,
by fall when it's<br>> time to dig them up you have 35 or 40...and what
was once a pleasure<br>> becomes an onerous race to get them all out of
the ground and properly<br>> dried for storage before winter...ugh! And
then what to do with the 35<br>> or 40 that then becomes 100? About
three years of this nearly drove us<br>> bonkers! But we sorely missed
them last year when we opted not to plant<br>> any, so who knows...maybe
we'll suck it up again this year and go for<br>> it!<br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)<br>> <br>> "The most beautiful thing we can
experience is the mysterious." <br>> --Albert Einstein<br>> <br>> --- On
Sat 02/14, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:<br>> From: Kitty [mailto:
kmrsy@comcast.net]<br>> To: gardenchat@hort.net<br>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb
2004 19:07:15 -0500<br>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10<br>> <br>> Lately
I've had the opposite problem. I try to explain to people they<br>>
can<br>overwinter some of their tender perennials, but here they
simply<br>> refer to<br>them as annuals. Well, when a Cordyline costs
$40, I am not<br>> going to throw<br>it out after 4 months. (well, ok, I
only paid about<br>> $5, but the same one is<br>going for $37 at WFF and
$40 elsewhere). A<br>> nice Osteospermum can cost about<br>$5 here.
Early on it's not much, but<br>> does grow to a nice size b

y the end of<br>the season. So in Sep 02 I<br>> brought it in and put it
back out in May 03,<br>already a nice size. By<br>> the end of the
season, it covered 3 times what it<br>had the previous<br>> year. Last
Sep, though, I just took cuttings. They pitch<br>Purple<br>> Fountain
Grass at the end of each year and buy new, when the<br>> first<br>one
has trippled in size. They throw away Caladiums and Cannas,<br>>
which<br>could easily be overwintered in storage. I know I sound
cheap,<br>> but it's not<br>just that. These are healthy plants and
bulbs they just<br>> pitch. I know I<br>can't salvage everything, but I
can't quite accept<br>> throwing away
everything.<br><br>Kitty<br><br><br>----- Original Message<br>> -----
<br>From: "james singer" <jsinger@igc.org><br>To:<br>>
<gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:27<br>>
PM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Zone 10<br><br><br>> Thanks for the list.
I'll<br>> go back to Darrell's list and take a peek.<br>><br>> Yep, zone
10 here.<br>> Good things and bad things about zone 10. Good<br>> things
are I can<br>> grow orchids, begonias, sweetsops, and avocados<br>>
outside--not to<br>> mention mangos, lychees, guavas, bananas, and so
on.<br>> Bad things are<br>> most plants northerners value and talk
about won't grow<br>> here. I<br>> spend a lot of time at the nursery
counseling folks from the<br>> north<br>> about the differences between
here and there. It's a lot more<br>> than<br>> "palm verses ash," but
that's always a good place to<br>> start.<br>><br>><br>> On Saturday,
February 14, 2004, at 06:22 PM, Kitty<br>> wrote:<br>><br>> > Jim, I got
three of my Epimediums from Darrell Probst<br>> and two from<br>> >
P<br>> <br>> lant<br>> > Pics - the people who used to own Shady Oaks .
These are<br>> what I have:<br>> ><br>> > Epimedium pinnatum ssp.
colchicum<br>> ><br>> Epimedium alpinum 'Rubrum'<br>> > Epimedium x
versicolor<br>> 'Versicolor'<br>> > Epimedium diphyllum 'Roseum'<br>> >
Epimedium x<br>> youngianum 'John Gallagher'<br>> ><br>> > There are
some

 r
eal stunners<br>> in his collection that I'd love to have<br>> >
some<br>> > day. Some<br>> listings I see on the internet show that some
varieties can<br>> ><br>> be<br>> > grown as far south as Zone 9, but
you're in 10, aren't<br>> you?<br>> ><br>> > Kitty<br>> ><br>> > -----
Original Message -----<br>><br>> > From: "james singer"
<jsinger@igc.org><br>> > To:<br>> <gardenchat@hort.net><br>> > Sent:
Saturday, February 14, 2004 4:36<br>> PM<br>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT]
Ground Orchid<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> My<br>> turn to plead ignorance,
Kitty. I didn't know what an Epimedium was<br>><br>> >> but I found this
page www.home.earthlink.net/~darrellpro/ that<br>> has<br>> >> pictures
of any number of species. Very interesting flowers,<br>> some<br>> >>
quite<br>> >> stunning. Which ones do you have?<br>><br>> >><br>> >> On
Saturday, February 14, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Kitty<br>> wrote:<br>> >><br>>
>>> Jim, I looked it up and the images I saw of the<br>> leaves alone
were<br>> >>> enough to<br>> >>> create a desire for the<br>> plants.
The flowers are beautiful. I just<br>> >>> love<br>> >>> those<br>>
little surprises, most of them in spring, when a long-awaited<br>>
>>><br>> plant<br>> >>> blooms. I am eager to see my first Epimedium
flowers this<br>> spring.<br>> >>> And I<br>> >>> hope I don't miss the
Bloodroot. It's<br>> such a grand surprise when you<br>> >>> round<br>>
>>> the corner and<br>> notice that new leaf, or the long-awaited
flower<br>> >>> spike.<br>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Even though I can't grow
much of anything you do, I enjoy<br>> it when you<br>> >>> mention these
items. It spurs me on to take a look<br>> at something I<br>> >>>
might<br>> >>> never have thought to look up.<br>> Thanks!<br>> >>><br>>
>>> Kitty<br>> >><br>> >> Island Jim<br>> >><br>> Southwest Florida<br>>
>> Zone 10<br>> >><br>> >> ------<br>> <br>> --<br>>
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