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RE: Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava

Kitty: I am glad to hear I am not the only one who fell for the J&P push
on their simplicity roses only to have nothing but problems...they are
horrible with their black spot. Bought 20...16 remain until I have the
energy to pull them out this year...just have to bite the bullet and do
it...they are so lovely in their first bloom, before it begins to rain
late in spring here and then once the black spot hits...yuck!! Then I
usually prune them severely back (literally to about 6 inches from the
crown) and let them the end of summer they are lovely again
until fall rains come, by which time it's time to prune them back for
winter. But that's alot of work for roses I get so little out of for the
entire year...

Melody Hobert-Mellecker
Director, Stewardship & Religious Education
St. Joseph's Parish, Hills, IA

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."    
--Albert Einstein

 --- On Mon 02/14,  < > wrote:
From:  [mailto:]
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:28:13 +0000
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava

Any carefree rose is welcome. About 14 yrs ago J&P was pushing
its<br>Simplicity roses and I was just a beginning gardener. I bit. I
bought 27<br>of them to create the rose hedge they described. Pretty
flowers, but<br>plenty of blackspot and not all came back the next year
(some of that<br>might be my fault, but I tended to go overboard on
preparation and care<br>in my early years, very afraid I might fail). I
eventually ripped out<br>what survived. Later tried some shrub roses
that I found difficult to<br>maintain. I still have a Peace (I think)
rose that my husband bought 20<br>yrs ago. The roses are pretty if the
aphids & JBs don't get them, it<br>gets plenty of blackspot and a
Rhododendron is trying to engulf it.<br>Frankly, I just gave up on roses
as they were too much hassle and they<br>never performed
well.<br><br><br>But this list kept yammering about the Knockout, so I
tried it, and so<br>far so good. I also picked up a small Rosa 'Nearly
Wild', but got rid of<br>it at the end of the season. Some disease and
always fighting JBs on it.<br>But the insects seemed to leave Knockouts
alone. Don't know why.<br><br><br>Maybe I'll try a carpet rose if I can
find one cheap. Roses are pretty, but I'm not big on spraying or a lot
of pruning.<br><br>--<br>Kitty <br>neIN, Zone5<br><br>--------------
Original message -------------- <br><br>> I realize the hype is on
knockout roses currently around here, but to be <br>> honest, I think
the carpet roses are much better. The red version (sorry, <br>> not sure
what they call it) has absolutely out bloomed any other for me. It <br>>
doesn't get any of the nasty looking issues that other roses get here.
It is <br>> in my no care area, and just blooms its heart out all summer
long. <br>> <br>> Donna <br>> <br>> > <br>> > Several people on this
list raved about the Knockout Rose (cherry-red <br>> > color) <br>> > so
I bought one last summer AND a Blushing Knockout (pink). Blooming all
<br>> > summer is nice, but what I'm really thrilled about was there was
no sign <br>> > o

f <br>> > black spot throughout or wet summer. <br>> > <br>> > Kitty
<br>> > neIN Z5 <br>> > <br>> > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> >
From: "pdickson" <br>> > To: <br>> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005
10:50 PM <br>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > Kitty, <br>> > > I was at Sunshine Nursery the
other day and the girl that sells me more <br>> > > plants mentioned a
"Knockout rose" that blooms all summer. She loves <br>> > it <br>> > >
and highly recommended it. I didn't buy it but have thought about it
<br>> > since <br>> > > then. They have a web site and I think they do
mail order but on a very <br>> > > small scale.
<br>> > > Tricia <br>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > > From:
"Kitty" <br>> > > To: <br>> > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:54 AM
<br>> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot Lava <br>>
> > <br>> > > <br>> > > > Sometimes it is just luck finding things. Like
finding Rosa <br>> > 'Knockout'. <br>> > > > I <br>> > > > was looking
for 'Knock Out' - or was it the other way around? I tried <br>> > for
<br>> > > > a <br>> > > > long time to find the full name or combined
species parentage of my <br>> > > > Lonicera with no luck. Finally
called the Mailorder nursery that sold <br>> > > > it - <br>> > > > they
didn't have it either. I'll never know. <br>> > > > <br>> > > > Kitty
<br>> > > > <br>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- <br>> > > > From:
"Theresa" <br>> > > > To: <br>> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005
12:24 PM <br>> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Golden Showers Climber now Hot
Lava <br>> > > > <br>> > > > <br>> > > >> I saw one at a garden a couple
years ago that was labeled- but I've <br>> > > >> never been able to
find one since... So, maybe it was mislabeled or <br>> > has <br>> > >
>> since been renamed??? I do not have anyidea who developed it. Well,
<br>> > at <br>> > > >> least I'm not the only one who can't find it-
thought maybe you all <br>> > knew <br>> > > >> some trick to

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