Re: mahonias/now cannas
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] mahonias/now cannas
- From: "Pamela J. Evans" g*@gbronline.com
- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:40:58 -0600
Oh no my dear - I have yours, Theresa's and Donna's "orders" tacked up
on the side of my fridge and my calender marked for March 1st to get to
digging. I have to be organized being as absent minded as I am. LOL.
Nice here today and getting cold tomorrow night again. Ugh w/ this
weather already...
Pam
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Richard T. Apking" <richa@midlands.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:48:25 -0800
>Hi Pam--Glad to hear that you haven't forgotten about the cannas. As the
>only parent of a teenage daughter, I am so used to the phrase "I forgot",
>that I seem to think everyone thinks that way. Rich in Z-5, where for some
>reason it will be 65 degrees today, and 28 degrees tomorrow. I'm going to
>water the gardens again today!!!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:35 PM
>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas/now mahonia
>
>
>> It's kin to the Oregon grape holly but does better in clay. Though my
>> mahonia aquifolium is doing well after 4 years in way amended clay in
>> shade w/ a twice-yearly top dressing of lava sand to keep the soil from
>> reverting to concrete. Leatherleaf (mahonia bealei) gets 5-7' tall and
>> 3-5' wide as a rule. They get pretty big here. They also need a less
>> water than their more well known cousin. Which is dandy, because where
>> I'm putting this, it won't get much supplemental water at all once it's
>> established (by fall). And the soil is not amended where it's going,
>> though I've had a clump of orange cannas there this year to loosen the
>> soil a bit. Those are getting dug up for Rich come March and replaced w/
>> this. Cannas grow great but don't bloom so much in shade. And I need
>> something evergreen in this spot to block that ugly auction next door.
>> They get the same yellow flowers and pretty blue berries for my birdies.
>> It will be just out of reach of Sugar's tether, so they'll be safe. This
>> is a most excellent shrub. Been promising myself one for years. If any
>> of my viburnums along the tree line don't make it - this is what they'll
>> be replaced w/. You gotta have a contingency plan when you garden in
>> clay.
>>
>> I'm getting mine from Forest Farm, but I'm sure other vendors carry
>> them, though Oregon isn't too awfully far from you. They have great
>> stuff, but paying the shipping out here is ugh! Does that help??
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:50:04 -0800
>>
>> >HI Pam- I'm not familiar with "leatherleaf" mahonia- how large to that
>get?
>> >
>> >Theresa
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> >Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:13 AM
>> >To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>> >
>> >
>> >Good girl. Would hate to see you get a bad infection there. Just as well
>> >we can't grow them I suspect. I did however order myself a leatherleaf
>> >mahonia for a shady spot that needed something. Only the leaves are
>> >picky on those! More berries for my birdies and these shrubs actually do
>> >well in clay. What a concept!
>> >
>> >BTW - your pics are fabulous. Really!
>> >
>> >Pam
>> >
>> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:42 -0800
>> >
>> >>I agree that they thorns are lethal- it just barely pricked my finger
>and
>> >it
>> >>is still sore and a bit swollen- I'm sure i will survive and next time I
>> >>will take the extra effort to put on a pair of gloves.
>> >>
>> >>Theresa
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> >>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>> >>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:11 PM
>> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>Subject: RE: [CHAT] pyracanthas
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Theresa - be careful of those thorns, they can be toxic. Howard Garrett
>> >>(aka the Dirt Doctor) calls them "lethal" (his words). Cotton root rot
>> >>has killed many of them in this part of the state, so I don't have any.
>> >>
>> >>Cotton was king here for many years, and the root rot organism remains.
>It
>> >>takes out red tip photinias too.
>> >>So I don't plant any cotton relatives or things that are suseptible to
>> >>the same diseases. Once something gets in this black clay - it stays
>> >>there for a long time apparently.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Pam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:01:00 -0800
>> >>
>> >>>Thanks- I can look forward to flowers this year then! This will be the
>> >2nd
>> >>>winter that I've had them and they are really filling in nicely.
>> >>>
>> >>>Theresa
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> >>>Behalf Of Janet Laytham
>> >>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:24 AM
>> >>>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] lenten rose< patience and winter chores
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Theresa,
>> >>>Pyracantha blooms on old wood. In the spring I cut the branches that
>> >>>bloomed the previous winter.
>> >>>Janet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>on 01/05/2003 10:46 PM, Theresa- yahoo at tchessie@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Thanks- I will be patient then- and a glass of wine sounds quite nice
>> >>>right
>> >>>> now. I finished putting my summer veggiebed to bed for winter this
>AM.
>> >>>> Ripped out the last 2 tomoto plants and a couple of the pepper. Cut
>2
>> >>>> peppers back, we will see if they return in spring. Piled the rest
>of
>> >>the
>> >>>> leaves on the bed, trimmed the bottlebrush back (seems like I do this
>> >>>every
>> >>>> 3 months it grows like a weed), also trimmed the pyracantha (still
>> >>shaping
>> >>>> it to grow on a trellis) and managed to poke myself with one of the
>> >>>thorns.
>> >>>> Those things HURT! My finger is still sore and red in that spot. By
>> >the
>> >>>> way, does anyone know if pyracantha blooms on old or new growth??
>Oh,
>> >>and
>> >>>> some of my bulbs are starting to come up!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Theresa
>> >>>> Sac, Ca zone 8-9
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Gene Bush
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:27 PM
>> >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Questions...nursery, ornamec, and lenten rose
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello Theresa,
>> >>>> Probably maturity is the issue. After germination most hellebores
>take 3
>> >>>> to 4 years before first bloom. Look much better at 5 years of age
>with a
>> >>>few
>> >>>> eyes to the crown. Most nurseries only carry the seedlings into the
>> >>second
>> >>>> year and then sell. That leaves you with 2 or more years to go before
>> >>>bloom.
>> >>>> My suggestion is to have another glass of good wine and move on to
>the
>> >>>next
>> >>>> perennial on your list. Next year you certainly should see some buds.
>> >>>> Gene E. Bush
>> >>>> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>> >>>> www.munchkinnursery.com
>> >>>> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>> >>>> Zone 6/5 Southern Indiana
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> OK- why haven't my hellebores bloomed? This is the second winter
>I've
>> >>>had
>> >>>>> them and there is not indication that they are even thinking of
>> >>blooming.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>>> have no idea what variety they are, I have 3 plants in different
>> >places-
>> >>>2
>> >>>>> with much shade, 1 in light shade. Any suggestions?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Theresa
>> >>>
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>> >>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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