Re: OT-Reverse sexism?!
- To: g*@hort.net
- Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
- From: "Kitty Morrissy" k*@earthlink.net
- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:19:07 -0500
Wow. At least then men have to deal with that one, too. But I always
wondered what the big deal is whether you are divorced or single? I don't
mean on credit apps because a divorced person could have credit baggage.
But, like on a warranty for a new washing machine. I don't get it.
Kitty
> [Original Message]
> From: Barbara Tandy <sundrops@earthlink.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Date: 1/28/2003 9:04:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>
> This isn't re sexism, just re wording. In California, if you are divorced
> (as I am), the wording of ownership on real estate papers is "unmarried",
as
> in "un-married." !! If you are single, it is "single" -- don't know what
> it is if you are widowed. Was amused when I first found this --
> --Barbara Tandy, California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janet Laytham" <jw.laytham@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>
>
> > Kitty,
> > About 5 years ago I re-financed, and when the bank presented me with the
> > papers, the form was full of masculine pronouns: it assumed that the
> > mortgagee was a single male, I guess. So, I started at the top and
> crossed
> > out all the "he, his, him" references and replaced each with the
> appropriate
> > feminine pronoun . It took me 10 minutes to get half way through, so I
> > finally stopped and announced to the loan officer that I had probably
made
> > my point.
> >
> > When I returned to the bank a few days later, the loan officer (a woman)
> > said her management had been very upset and berated her for letting me
do
> > it. They were afraid the county clerk wouldn't accept the deed. I
> replied
> > that the clerk was probably a woman. Of course it was filed and
accepted.
> >
> > I wonder if that bank still uses that form?
> > Janet
> >
> >
> > on 01/28/2003 6:06 PM, Kitty Morrissy at kmrsy@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > Jim,
> > > I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
> term,
> > > but didn't agree with it.
> > >
> > > I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a
job
> to
> > > a woman who had a lot less flying time. They said they had to hire
> women.
> > > I don't agree with that. I also had a husband who refused to tip
> waiters;
> > > didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because
he
> > > wanted to be waited on by a cute girl. (I always left the guy a nice
> big
> > > tip)
> > >
> > > I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms. A salesperson called
and
> > > referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that
it
> was
> > > bad form to assume I was. She said she was instructed to use only
Mrs.
> I
> > > resent this - as if single people don't count. Then I received a
> Cemetery
> > > service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy. All
3
> > > pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
on
> > > the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever. I called to tell
them
> > > that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
such
> > > services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
> > >
> > > Why don't single people count?
> > >
> > > Kitty
> > >
> > >
> > >> [Original Message]
> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
> > >>
> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i think
> the
> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
against
> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
as
> > >> acceptable.
> > >>
> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
> > > discussion,
> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
> > >>
> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>> I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
do
> > >>> you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
behavior
> > >>> whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
> > >>> Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
it?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Kitty
> >
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