RE: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Oh UGH. It's "June" and considering I was born in May, it's pretty
silly. But it had to start w/ a "j". Say both w/ the right drawl
together and it makes me sound like one of the old loopy, neurotic, out
of touch, slightly alcoholic fading belles. Please. I am Southern, but
I'm no belle folks.


:-P 

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:01:47 -0800

>Ok- so what is your middle name??
>
>Theresa
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:01 AM
>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>
>
>I never did understand that "Mrs. John Smith" thing.
>Hey we have names people!! Of course I'm one of those odd types who will
>bear the same name on the death certiciate as they did their birth
>certificate. Unusual, I believe. Even though my middle name makes me
>gag, I keep it.
>
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>Date:  Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:44:59 -0500
>
>>So another qstn for the ladies:  If you are or were married, how did you
>>(if you did) change your name?
>>I went from Kathleen Marie Glasch to Kathleen Glasch Strope.
>>(At the time my birth name Kitty had early on been changed to Kathleen and
>>then later changed back to Kitty)
>>I know many women who would have gone to Kathleen Marie Strope, retaining
>>less of their former self.
>>
>>Kitty
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Barbara Tandy <sundrops@earthlink.net>
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Date: 1/28/2003 11:41:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>>
>>> Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman!  Friends of my mother's (and
>>> grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
>>use
>>> their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
>>> --Barbara Tandy, California
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
>>>
>>>
>>> > OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood
>the
>>> > Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got
>>married.
>>> > My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects gender
>>> > (just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use Ms.
>>I
>>> > absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who
>the
>>> > heck is that?  My name is Theresa.
>>> > I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.
>>> >
>>> > Theresa
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>>> > Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
>>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
>>> > mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
>>> > astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
>>> > "take")
>>> >
>>> > It's amazing, isn't it??
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> > From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
>>> > Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>> > Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500
>>> >
>>> > >Jim,
>>> > >I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the
>>> term,
>>> > >but didn't agree with it.
>>> > >
>>> > >I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a
>job
>>> to
>>> > >a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire
>>> women.
>>> > >I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip
>>> waiters;
>>> > >didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because
>he
>>> > >wanted to be waited on by a cute girl.  (I always left the guy a nice
>>big
>>> > >tip)
>>> > >
>>> > >I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called
>>and
>>> > >referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that
>it
>>> was
>>> > >bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only
>Mrs.
>>> I
>>> > >resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a
>>> Cemetery
>>> > >service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy.  All
>3
>>> > >pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
>>on
>>> > >the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell
>them
>>> > >that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in
>>such
>>> > >services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.
>>> > >
>>> > >Why don't single people count?
>>> > >
>>> > >Kitty
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >> [Original Message]
>>> > >> From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
>>> > >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> > >> Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i
>think
>>> the
>>> > >> women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men
>>against
>>> > >> women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition
>>as
>>> > >> acceptable.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the
>>> > >discussion,
>>> > >> reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
>>> > >> >I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me. What
>>do
>>> > >> >you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant
>>behavior
>>> > >> >whether it is a preference of male over female or female over male.
>>> > >> >Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't
>>it?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Kitty
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
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>>> > --
>>> > Pam Evans
>>> > Kemp TX/zone 8A
>>> >
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