Re: OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Rats! I was hoping it was Urologist! :)
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 11:52 PM, Theresa- yahoo wrote:
A Ph.D. kind of doctor. Work with children with developmental problems at a
major medical center.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of David Franzman
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:51 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.


You're a doctor??? Man, I'm learning all kinds of things today. What are
you a
doctor of?

DF

Theresa- yahoo wrote:

Amazingly, I still have an occassional parent be very surprised when I
introduce myself at work (Dr. Witt)- usually it is a man who is surprised.
One or two have even said outloud that they expected a man- one asked for
a

"man doctor".  This is are more annoying than those people who are

surprised
I am a Dr. because I look so young. That I can live with : ) - and will
likely enjoy more and more as years go by.

Theresa

P.S. For the record- our clinic nurse is a man.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Andrea H
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:18 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.

Hey-I'm right in there with that one. I will always be Ms. Andrea Hodges.
I
always get amused by our garden club ladies and other socialites here in
Beaufort who introduce them selves as Mrs. George Trask or whatever. I
cannot IMAGINE living my life as an appendage.

A close friend of mine who is a doctor went into an art gallery with her
husband here some years ago. Her husband (who was also a Dr. )introduced
himself and the owner of the gallery (a woman) said to Andra, "Well aren't
you just the luckiest thing, you caught yourself a DOCTOR." Andra turned
around and walked out and never went back. I was amazed at that woman.
What

an idiot!

Andrea H
Beaufort, SC
Zone 8b

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Tandy" <sundrops@earthlink.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.
Spoken like a true 20th-21st century woman! Friends of my mother's (and
grandmother's) always went by the title "Mrs. John Smith" -- didn't even
use

their own female name!!! just an appendage to their husband---
--Barbara Tandy, California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theresa- yahoo" <tchessie@yahoo.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism< Ms. Mrs.



OK- I have to put in my 2 cents here.  I have never, ever understood

the

Mrs. thing- why would a woman's title change just because she got

married.

My vote is that everyone is Ms. - married or not.  This reflects

gender

(just as Mr. does) not marital status.  I am married, and still use

Ms.

I

absolutely hate is when I get mail addressed to Mrs. John Witt.- who

the
heck is that? My name is Theresa.
I love my husband, but I am my own person- not some appendage.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of Pamela J. Evans
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 3:36 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-Reverse sexism?!


People call me Mrs. Evans all the time. I tell them Mrs. Evans is my
mother, not me. When people find out I've never been married, most are
astounded, even in this day and age. (was engaged twice, it didn't
"take")

It's amazing, isn't it??

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:06:45 -0500

Jim,
I guess what I should have said was that understood their use of the

term,

but didn't agree with it.

I remember in the late 70s a friend of mine, a pilot, lost out on a

job

to

a woman who had a lot less flying time.  They said they had to hire

women.

I don't agree with that.  I also had a husband who refused to tip

waiters;

didn't want to "encourage them to stay in that line of work" because

he
wanted to be waited on by a cute girl. (I always left the guy a nice
big

tip)

I also resent the refusal to use the title Ms.  A salesperson called

and

referred to me as Mrs. Morrissy, I told her I'm not married and that

it

was

bad form to assume I was.  She said she was instructed to use only

Mrs.

I

resent this - as if single people don't count.  Then I received a

Cemetery
service offering through my church, addressed to Kitty Morrissy. All
3
pages of the letter described everything offered as being conditioned
on

the purchase of 2 plots, vaults, urns, whatever.  I called to tell

them

that this is exceptionally rude marketing, and were I interested in

such

services, I would definitely shop elsewhere.

Why don't single people count?

Kitty



[Original Message]
From: Island Jim <jsinger@igc.org>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 1/28/2003 4:45:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] now plant clubs- Reverse sexism?!

you're right of course, kitty. but at risk of being a sexist, i

think

the

women who have carried the torch against sexist behavior by men

against

women have cozened the word as their own with only their definition

as

acceptable.

i think that's why when cooler heads [or both sexes] joined the

discussion,

reverse sexism came to be used as the other kind.

At 06:27 AM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:

I have to ask this qstn. The subject line has been bugging me.

What

do

you mean by reverse sexism? Being sexist is the same abhorant

behavior

whether it is a preference of male over female or female over

male.

Reverse sexism then would be the opposite; no preference, wouldn't

it?


Kitty


If you have weeds, you don't have enough plants.




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Kemp TX/zone 8A


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