Re: Gene's greenhouse NOW Sycamore


Ours pig out on Rue Herb (Ruta graveolens) also.

Stitch, z5b

On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:33:56PM -0500, james singer wrote:
> A couple of years ago, I planted a "dill" plant from a box store; plant 
> turned out to be anise, and it attracted swallowtails like you wouldn't 
> believe.
> 
> On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Cathy Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > Dill, too. They are all in the same family, but around here, dill is
> > the favorite, then fennel, then parsley. Have never seen them on my
> > carrots.
> >
> > Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Pam Evans wrote:
> >
> >> Plant parsley & fennel - they're host plants for the swallowtail
> >> caterpillars.
> >> I lots of them every year.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/20/06, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
> >> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Around here they are a great shade tree. I love mine in the
> >>> summer, I have
> >>> a
> >>> chair hammock suspended from one branch and I sit under the tree
> >>> watching
> >>> a
> >>> couple hummingbirds flit about, listening to the pond fountain.
> >>> The bits
> >>> of
> >>> stuff that drop off aren't a problem for me, either they drop into
> >>> the
> >>> front
> >>> garden and vanish or I chew 'em up with the lawnmower. The bark
> >>> can be
> >>> lovely as it peels off, showing all sorts of dull green to deep brown
> >>> shades. I hear they are food for swallowtail butterflies - sure
> >>> wish with
> >>> my
> >>> six sycamores I'd see more than two swallowtails a year. But they
> >>> do have
> >>> their drawbacks. Mine always seem to be full of whiteflies by
> >>> summer's
> >>> end.
> >>> They don't have any fall color; the leaves turn a dull brown and
> >>> hang onto
> >>> the tree for a long time. The dead leaves once off don't make any
> >>> attempt
> >>> to
> >>> break down or decompose, they just pile up in huge drifts (maybe if I
> >>> lived
> >>> in a wetter climate it would be different). I do have one that is now
> >>> showing signs of anthracnose, not so good. I have to have them
> >>> professionally trimmed every two years, which is expensive.
> >>> If I lived somewhere else I probably wouldn't plant one as close
> >>> to the
> >>> house as mine are now, but I probably would put one in where I
> >>> could sit
> >>> under it in the summer.
> >>>
> >>> Cyndi
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Cathy Carpenter
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:27 PM
> >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Gene's greenhouse NOW Sycamore
> >>>
> >>> They are a messy tree. I am forever picking up bark, twigs, and seed
> >>> pods all over the back yard. Not to mention the anthracnose that
> >>> afflicts sycamores almost every spring.
> >>>
> >>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 19, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Zemuly Sanders wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bonnie, I'll be on the lookout for some in my flowerbeds this
> >>>> spring.  I love them, too.  I transplanted one to my yard last
> >>>> year, but I don't have room for any more.  I hate to pull them out
> >>>> and throw them away.  I'll let you know what comes up.
> >>>> zem
> >>>> zone 7
> >>>> West TN
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Holmes"
> >>>> <holmesbm@usit.net>
> >>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 4:29 PM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Gene's greenhouse
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Do you have any seedlings?  I am trying to get some sycamores to
> >>>>> grow on
> >>>>> our property.  We purchased one...only one area nursery had one for
> >>>>> sale...my DH and I think they are beautiful.
> >>>>> Bonnie ETN Zone 7
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>>> From: Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT
> >>>>>> <cyndi.johnson@edwards.af.mil>
> >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>> Date: 1/18/2006 11:59:05 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] Gene's greenhouse
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It doesn't get cold enough where I live to need real heat
> >>>>>> inside the
> >>>>>> greenhouse. I put in 3 big plastic drums full of water, figuring
> >>>>>> it would
> >>>>> be
> >>>>>> a kind of thermal buffer for when the temps drop. I guess it
> >>>>>> works.
> >>>>>> Sometimes if it is forecasted to get seriously cold I'll run a
> >>>>>> little
> >>>>> floor
> >>>>>> heater at night. What I should have done is buy a bigger fan.
> >>>>>> Even in
> >>>>>> winter, when the sun is out it gets hot in there, upwards of 90F.
> >>>>>> By the
> >>>>> end
> >>>>>> of March I've moved everything outside. Mid-summer it will get
> >>>>>> over 120F
> >>>>>> (comes in handy if you need to dehydrate veggies or fruit
> >>>>>> leather).
> >>>>>> I have a dilemma now though. When we sited the greenhouse there
> >>>>>> was this
> >>>>>> small struggling sycamore nearby. It was a side of our yard we
> >>>>>> didn't use
> >>>>>> much, didn't irrigate. I didn't figure the sycamore would cause a
> >>>>> problem. I
> >>>>>> guess it got enough water from what drips onto the greenhouse
> >>>>>> floor
> >>>>> because
> >>>>>> it got big in a hurry. Now it shades the greenhouse quite a bit
> >>>>>> when I
> >>>>> bring
> >>>>>> in plants end of October, and here the dead leaves hang on the
> >>>>>> sycamore
> >>>>> for
> >>>>>> months unless there's a really big wind. On the plus side, most
> >>>>>> of what I
> >>>>>> bring inside is the stuff from my patio which has been in partial
> >>>>>> shade
> >>>>> all
> >>>>>> summer anyway. But the tree is not going to get smaller...so I
> >>>>>> need to
> >>>>>> decide what to do about it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cyndi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
> >>>>>> gardenchat@hort.net] On
> >>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>> Of Cornergar@aol.com
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:14 AM
> >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Gene's greenhouse
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think I am grateful now that I made the decision to go passive
> >>>>>> solar
> >>>>> only
> >>>>>> in my grnhse so I do not have any gas bills. I do have power so
> >>>>>> in really
> >>>>>> extreme weather I can leave lights on for enough additional
> >>>>>> warmth to keep
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> losing everything. It seldom gets below 28F even with several
> >>>>>> cloudy 0
> >>>>>> degree
> >>>>>> days in a row. Of course I'm not really "growing" anything...just
> >>>>>> holding.
> >>>>>> But it
> >>>>>> works for holding the more tender things in 1 gal pots and I can
> >>>>>> be out
> >>>>>> there
> >>>>>> potting up plugs and bare root in Feb. Don't have running water
> >>>>>> 'tho which
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> sort of a pain but do-able. By the end of Mar I'm bursting at the
> >>>>>> seams
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>> by then I can start hardening off which isn't too difficult as
> >>>>>> the pots
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> been subject to a hard life already! Am still anxious to try
> >>>>>> hypertufa.
> >>>>> It's
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> New Years resolution! I like this time of year..Anticipation is
> >>>>>> high ( and
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> body doesn't hurt too much yet). kathy
> >>>>>>
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Pam Evans
> >> Kemp TX
> >> zone 8A
> >>
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> Island Jim
> Southwest Florida
> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
> Hardiness Zone 10
> Heat Zone 10
> Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
> Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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