Re: Medicare

So very well put.  I'll have to see if I can find it online.  I wonder what
Molly Ivans has to say about it too.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Medicare


> Did you read Maurine Dowd this AM? Said she didn't want the Vice Voyeur
> "ogling her googling."
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing
> Center wrote:
>
> > I was just joking about the age discrimination Marge.
> > But as to Big Brother....I'm sure you've been watching the Google
> > situation.
> > Who will they spy on next?
> >
> > Kitty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Medicare
> >
> >
> >> I rather doubt that's the reason....with the draft they want
> >> something out of you; with SS and Medicare, they have to fork out to
> >> you.  I think it's just plain old gov't. rigmarole.  You have to sign
> >> up for SS by a certain date after you become 65 even if you don't
> >> plan on retiring and collecting it until later.  Makes NO sense to
> >> me.  Maybe it's just part of the big brother is watching you
> >> syndrome, which seems to be getting worse and worse with each passing
> >> day.
> >>
> >> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >> mtalt@hort.net
> >> Shadyside Garden Designs
> >>>> by a specific date, you get penalized.  Huh?  Same if you don't
> >> sign
> >>>> up for either SS or Medicare by a certain age.  I do NOT get the
> >>>> point here.
> >>>
> >>> Could it be that they don't want to be accused of discrimination?
> >> 18 yr old
> >>> men must sign up for the draft by a certain date or be penalized.
> >>>
> >>> Re>  If the surplus that used to exist had been
> >>>> invested and kept in the fund instead of spent on other stuff by
> >>>> every administration since inception, there wouldn't be a pending
> >>>> funding problem IMO.
> >>>
> >>> My thoughts exactly.  I always wondered why they were allowed to
> >> plunder SS.
> >>>
> >>> Kitty
> >>> neIN, Z5
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
> >>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:02 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Medicare
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Our leader's singular grasp of our common language clarifies why
> >> the
> >>>> prescription portion of Medicare is so completely unintelligible.
> >>>>
> >>>> The part I have never understood is that if you don't sign up for
> >> it
> >>>> by a specific date, you get penalized.  Huh?  Same if you don't
> >> sign
> >>>> up for either SS or Medicare by a certain age.  I do NOT get the
> >>>> point here.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've read the info. on prescription drugs several times and have
> >> yet
> >>>> to make any real sense of it.  Trust our government to create a
> >>>> program that defies comprehension. I have got to deal with this
> >> on
> >>>> account of my DH, so can't ignore it:-(
> >>>>
> >>>> I do clearly see how the prescription drug programs will increase
> >> the
> >>>> bottom line of the providers of the plans but am not so sure
> >> they'll
> >>>> reduce that of the participants.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only 'red' that I see in our leader's proposal, so cogently
> >>>> stated below,  is the ink on my bottom line.  I've paid a wad for
> >> SS
> >>>> over the past 50 years.  If the surplus that used to exist had
> >> been
> >>>> invested and kept in the fund instead of spent on other stuff by
> >>>> every administration since inception, there wouldn't be a pending
> >>>> funding problem IMO.
> >>>>
> >>>> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >>>> mtalt@hort.net
> >>>> Shadyside Garden Designs
> >>>>> Recently some of you on the list said you were slogging through
> >> the
> >>>> new
> >>>>> medicare choices. I received the following explanation from
> >> someone
> >>>> when
> >>>>> it first came out but deleted it. I'm glad to say that my
> >> sister
> >>>> just
> >>>>> sent it to me again and I thought it might be of some help to
> >> you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>>> President Bush Explains Medicare Drug Bill > >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: "I don't really understand. How is the
> >> new
> >>>> plan going to fix the problem?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> PRESIDENT BUSH: (Verbatim response) > > "Because the -- all
> >>>> which is
> >>>>> on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For
> >> example,
> >>>> how
> >>>>> benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether
> >> or
> >>>> not
> >>>>> benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases.
> >> There's
> >>>> a
> >>>>> series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And
> >> when
> >>>> you
> >>>>> couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those --
> >>>> changing
> >>>>> those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been
> >>>> promised
> >>>>> more likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been
> >> promised.
> >>>> Does
> >>>>> that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's
> >> a
> >>>> series
> >>>>> of things that cause the -- like, for example, benefits are
> >>>> calculated
> >>>>> based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of
> >>>> prices.
> >>>>> Some have suggested that we calculate -- the benefits will rise
> >>>> based
> >>>>> upon inflation, supposed to wage increases. There is a reform
> >> that
> >>>> would
> >>>>> help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other
> >> words,
> >>>> how
> >>>>> fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if
> >> those
> >>>> -- if
> >>>>> that growth is affected, it will help on the red."
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Forward this to others -- so they, too, can understand...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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