Re: greenhouse/ butterflies

Actually, they didn't, Cathy.
A. durior and A. macrophylla are the same... no one seems to be able to settle on a name. I see both out there all the time.
Gene E. Bush
Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
www.munchkinnursery.com
genebush@munchkinnursery.com
Zone 6/5 Southern Indiana

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
I wonder why they left off Aristolochia durior?

Hrm.  According to:
http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/butterfly/2004041551026161.html
Pipevine swallowtail caterpillars will die if raised on tropical
pipevines.
Please only use the pipevines on the list.

Pipevine Swallowtail
- Pipevine family, Aristolochia
1. Aristolochia macrophylla - big leaf pipevine
2. Aristolochia tomentosa - woolly pipevine
3. Aristolochia serpentaria - Virginia snakeroot
4. Aristolochia californica - California pipevine
5. Aristolochia fimbriata - white-veined Duchman's pipe

(Though I try not to read everything I believe.
 Strike that.
 Reverse.
)

-s z5b

On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 05:36:21PM -0500, Gene Bush wrote:

Hello Noreen,
    We get occasional feeding on the Aristolochia durior. It is
locate on
the garden entrance in a bit of shade and heavy soil, not doing as
well as
it could with more light and deeper soil. Perhaps that is the
reason it is
not used as much by the butterflies. However, we have A.
clematitis that got
loose in the display beds and we leave it there between the other
containers
... it gets stripped every late summer. We can not find the cocoons
though... one day everyone is fat and happy, next they have
disappeared.
    We have had the local maypop one year now... it got hit fairly
heavy
this summer. We only work with what is hardy to this area. Wish we
could
grow some of the more exotic pipevines.
    Gene E. Bush
Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
www.munchkinnursery.com
genebush@munchkinnursery.com
Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana

----- Original Message -----
From: <TeichFlora@aol.com>

Gene, do you know the botanical of the Pipevine that the butterflies
like??
I've had a butterfly garden for years, and belong to the local
group of
NABA.  From my experiences and others, we've found that the
Pipevine
Swallowtails
here only seem to like the A. fimbriata and the natives
species.  No
larval
activity on A. gigantea, A. elegans, or A.  grande.  We've even
tried to
relocate caterpillars from the A. fimbriata  over to one of these
since
there was
very little food left......but the  caterpillars died after
eating the
foliage.
 (No pesticides, so that  wasn't it.)  This was my experience as
well as
others.

Had the same experiences here with the Frittilary on
Passionvines.   They
seem to only go to the native species of Passiflora, and only one
or so of
the
other varieties.  I'm curious what species you (Gene and others)
have  had
success with.

Noreen
zone 9
Texas Gulf Coast

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