Re: OTQ

Thanks, Bonnie. It doesn't seem to be quite that transparent in Florida, but I have written to the Secretary of State's office and asked where it's hidden. 

On Jan 15, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:
Most state governments have a source you can check on the net to see how much of your donation actually goes to the organization and how much goes to the professional solicitor. I recently checked on the Tennessee Police 
Federation and found that only 17% went to the Police Federation.



[Original Message]
From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 1/15/2008 2:23:43 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OTQ

I kinda like that, Rich. And while I don't have nine kids to amuse
[thank goodness], I do know how to say "Can you hang on for a sec?"
Seems like every cop in Florida has his own benevolent society, which
we seem to have supported last year. Maybe I can just put the phone
down on the table and go back to reading my book.


On Jan 14, 2008, at 10:08 PM, Richard Apking wrote:


I live in  a sort of rural area, the town (pop 104) seems to be too
small for the dtd types to bother with. However, the phone solicitors 
are rampant.  My good friend Jim Kelly has 9 kids, he says it's kinda
neat, when the phone folks call, he gives the phone to a 2 year old.
Has been doing that quite a while.  Says he isn't bothered very much,
and it keeps the kids entertained. The phone folks, on the other hand 
don't enjoy it nearly as much, since they can't break the connection
until he does.  I think it's great.

Donna wrote:
no DTD allowed here. If a new company wants to promote something, they 
do it at the town hall (err... bar) everyone gets a notice in the
mailbox with time, date, who they are.... and it is up to you to show 
up
if you want to hear the deal of the week.


  Although I will get kids coming to the door selling some kind of
school thing- candy bars, magazines....
I do feel sorry for the telemarketers who call my aging mothers house 
tho..... they get the speach about getting a real job instead of
bothering old folks like her... LOL~!


  Donna


Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
  Not too many d-t-d salespeople when it's 20 degrees out here....
Verizon heavily canvassed here last year, trying to convert everyone. 
I
would see them going d-t-d in addition to the constant barrage of
mail and
tv ads. But they didn't usually get to me because my doorbell doesn't 
work
:+)
One guy finally confronted me in the driveway. We talked at length,
but
Verizon could in no way match what I get from Comcast. So he gave up. 
Then
around Tgvg they sent a young girl here. Again, Verizon can't match
what I
get from Comcast. One difference in her spiel was that several times
she
mentioned that Comcast used copper wire which she said is nowhere
near as
good as what Verizon has. I explained that Ft Wayne's REA Wire is a
large
producer of the copper wire and I'd much rather keep a local
manufacturer in
business. Finally, she told me essentially that Comcast would be
defunct in
the coming year and then I'd be sorry because it would cost me twice
as much
to convert. (well, she said it more nicely than that, but that's the
gist of
it.)


Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "james singer"
To: "Garden Chat"
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:34 PM
Subject: [CHAT] OTQ




Anybody else noticed this? We've had a big increase in door-to-door
salesmen--from zero 6 months ago to two-three a day now. We've also
had
four Verizon salesmen in the last 5 day [not counting Sunday, of
course]
peddling their new FiOS [fiber-optic system] internet/cable
channel/long
distance hookup service. Since they tore up most of the front yards
around
here when they installed the fiber-optic cable, you'd think they
would be
smart enough to let the neighborhood ire quell before bragging about 
what
they did. But since their cable competitor here is Comcast, it's
become a
tussle between dumb and dumber.


Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.1 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Sunset Zone 25
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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