Re: More deer damage

I'm with you Zem.  I could very easily be a vegetarian.  And if I think
about it long enough when I DO actually eat chicken or turkey (I don't eat
red meat at ALL) - I get kind of woozy and lose my appetite completely.  I
wasnt' eating meat at all before I married my husband...then went back to
eating white meat...but I don't even eat much of that.  I will, however, eat
eggs, cheese and drink milk.  I don't understand total vegans.  They won't
touch honey, eggs, milk, cheese....

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Zemuly Sanders <zemuly@comcast.net> wrote:

> I grew up in a family where hunting was forbidden unless you didn't have
> another source of meat.  We were instead taught about the familial
> relationships in nature.   I still can't get used to the people who think
> killing is fun.  It's different if one realizes that the target is a
> sentient being, but I've found that is rarely the case -- at least around
> here.  I'm also finding that as I get older I'm less and less interested in
> eating meat at all.
> zem
> zone 7
> West TN
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catharine Carpenter" <
> cathycrc@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More deer damage
>
>
>  I'd say the same for bear. Good if field dressed and butchered
>> immediately, but bear fat gets rancid in a heartbeat.
>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 8:31 PM, james singer wrote:
>>
>>  Yeah, but so is [shudder] muskrat, which I've had a couple of times  and
>>> hope I never do again.
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Pam Evans wrote:
>>>
>>>  It has to be cooked properly, then it's good.  I don't know how to  cook
>>>> it,
>>>> but I've had it at other folks homes and it was really good.  And  I'm
>>>> not a
>>>> big meat eater.  If it's overcooked by so much as a minute, it's
>>>> inedible
>>>> unless you're a Rottweiler.
>>>>
>>>> On 1/8/09, james singer <inlandjim1@q.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well... maybe. Problem is that venison is tough, stringy, and  gamey.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> only known one person in my all of my life who though it was fit  for
>>>>> human
>>>>> consumption--and he confessed to liking black angus a whole lot better.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Catharine Carpenter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If only market hunting of deer were allowed, this behavior could  be
>>>>> stopped
>>>>>
>>>>>> in its tracks.
>>>>>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Judy Browning wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lobby for a depredation hunt in your neighborhood. Sounds like  the
>>>>>> deer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are overpopulated, starving & eating anything green.
>>>>>>> Get a protective dog that will harass them & make your property
>>>>>>> unappealing. Something like a Basenji that doesn't bark.  (Although
>>>>>>> they do
>>>>>>> make a yodeling sound, it doesn't carry like a bark.)
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aplfgcnys@aol.com>
>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:27 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] More deer damage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I looked out my window this morning to discover that deer have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just devastated the plantings in front of the house - things that
>>>>>>>> they have never touched before in the 38 years we have lived
>>>>>>>> here.  The dwarf Mugho pine has been stripped nearly bare.
>>>>>>>> In all the years, they have never bothered that before.  This
>>>>>>>> one is a replacement of the one we put in when we moved
>>>>>>>> here - that one, though dwarf, had grown too big for the space,
>>>>>>>> and had been damaged by a snow-plow.  We splurged on a
>>>>>>>> nice replacement about five years ago, but it had to be dug up
>>>>>>>> and replanted when the underground oil tank was removed.  It
>>>>>>>> had about recovered from that when the tree fell on it summer
>>>>>>>> before last.  Careful pruning had just about brought it around,
>>>>>>>> but now this.  I'm trying to think what could possibly replace
>>>>>>>> it that deer wouldn't eat.  Is there anything?
>>>>>>>> Then I walked to the other end of the house and looked out
>>>>>>>> windows there to see that my Rhododendrons there had been
>>>>>>>> stripped.  They were full of buds, but are now just sticks.  The
>>>>>>>> deer have sometimes nipped them, but never more than a bite
>>>>>>>> or two.  This is really distressing.  They had already eaten the
>>>>>>>> Mountain Laurel shoots that were trying to come up from the
>>>>>>>> ones the tree took down.
>>>>>>>> It's hard to know what to do now.
>>>>>>>> Auralie
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>>>>>>  Inland Jim
>>>>> Willamette Valley
>>>>> 44.99 N 123.04 W
>>>>> Elevation 148'
>>>>> 39.9" Precipitation
>>>>> Hardiness Zone 8/9
>>>>> Heat Zone 5
>>>>> Sunset Zone 6
>>>>> Minimum 0 F [-15 C]
>>>>> Maximum 102 F [39 C]
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>>>> Pam Evans
>>>> Kemp TX
>>>> zone 8A
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>>> Inland Jim
>>> Willamette Valley
>>> 44.99 N 123.04 W
>>> Elevation 148'
>>> 39.9" Precipitation
>>> Hardiness Zone 8/9
>>> Heat Zone 5
>>> Sunset Zone 6
>>> Minimum 0 F [-15 C]
>>> Maximum 102 F [39 C]
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